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Giving Atsu 90 minutes - he's either on smack or he's given up. Let down by Ashley yes, but some absolutely baffling selection decisions.

Did you post this without watching the match?

 

I was at the game actually. Why do you ask?

Just not sure why Atsu would be the player you'd single out.
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Pilko

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Giving Atsu 90 minutes - he's either on smack or he's given up. Let down by Ashley yes, but some absolutely baffling selection decisions.

Did you post this without watching the match?

 

I was at the game actually. Why do you ask?

Just not sure why Atsu would be the player you'd single out.

 

Probably because he's not had a good game in well over a year and offers absolutely bugger all. Baffled as to why he got 90 mins.

 

You're right in that there are way, way bigger problems. It just irritated me is all.

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Big Geordie

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Lots of calls online for him to to, tonight. :???: :rant: I still have faith - the man has been backed into a corner by the owner, who will be sat pissing himself tonight. Because guess who wins again? Not Rafa and not the supporters.

 

Perhaps Ashley's endgame here is to force Rafa to resign, with fans turning on him. Rafa would then have to pay Ashley.......  I don't think the owner is bothered about relegation, as he can sell Lascelles and Shelvey to offset the loss in reveue. And he will also have two seasons of TV cash by then. He's no going anywhere.

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ScottishMagpie

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Jumping between the first two options to be brutally honest.

 

Never would suggest he's deliberately throwing games but can't help but think he's being slightly "political" with his use of players.  Which if he is I'll be 100% behind him.

 

If this is him picking his best 11 players and subs, and tactics to try and win matches then maybe the stress is getting to him.

 

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Giving Atsu 90 minutes - he's either on smack or he's given up. Let down by Ashley yes, but some absolutely baffling selection decisions.

Did you post this without watching the match?

 

I was at the game actually. Why do you ask?

Just not sure why Atsu would be the player you'd single out.

 

Probably because he's not had a good game in well over a year and offers absolutely bugger all. Baffled as to why he got 90 mins.

 

You're right in that there are way, way bigger problems. It just irritated me is all.

He's done fuck all, that's true. Thought he was one of the better performers today, which is probably damning with faint praise though admittedly.
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The only people calling for Rafa to go are the same people who were calling for him to go since day one. The thing about bad runs and performances is that it gives these people an opportunity to raise their heads.

There is a difference between not liking one of his subs and wanting him out. 99.9% of the people there today were questioning the sub.

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Lots of calls online for him to to, tonight. : ??? : :rant: I still have faith - the man has been backed into a corner by the owner, who will be sat pissing himself tonight. Because guess who wins again? Not Rafa and not the supporters.

 

Perhaps Ashley's endgame here is to force Rafa to resign, with fans turning on him. Rafa would then have to pay Ashley.......  I don't think the owner is bothered about relegation, as he can sell Lascelles and Shelvey to offset the loss in reveue. And he will also have two seasons of TV cash by then. He's no going anywhere.

 

It's a mexican stand-off with neither going to pull the trigger as there is too much money involved. Got no doubt that Ashley wants rid of him and I honestly believe currently Benitez would not be against going right now under the current environment. Ashley is not going to go and he is making that point obvious by suddenly attending matches. I honestly belive this season is going to be one of the worst in the clubs history with not a hope for major investment (he will put the money aside for next year in the championship), turgid football and possibly even a lowest premiership points total on the cards. It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it but the majority of people who go and sit in there seats doing fuck all certainly deserve it.

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We were set up to lose today; we were never in it, never showed any ambition and allowed Leicester to find space all over the pitch. Rafa is playing games, we’re going down at the moment, Rafa’s parting gift may be to rid us of Ashley at the cost of going down. I’m fine with that but it’s bloody awful to watch.

 

How Atsu stayed on for 90 minutes I’ll never know, swapping Gayle for Rondon looks utter madness just now. Rafa has to give the match going fans something to hold on to. Today was desperate.

 

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The only people calling for Rafa to go are the same people who were calling for him to go since day one. The thing about bad runs and performances is that it gives these people an opportunity to raise their heads.

There is a difference between not liking one of his subs and wanting him out. 99.9% of the people there today were questioning the sub.

It's exactly why Ashley will gleefully keep him on, not give him the  resources he needs and hope he either walks or the fans and media turn on him.
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Lots of calls online for him to to, tonight. :???: :rant: I still have faith - the man has been backed into a corner by the owner, who will be sat pissing himself tonight. Because guess who wins again? Not Rafa and not the supporters.

 

Perhaps Ashley's endgame here is to force Rafa to resign, with fans turning on him. Rafa would then have to pay Ashley.......  I don't think the owner is bothered about relegation, as he can sell Lascelles and Shelvey to offset the loss in reveue. And he will also have two seasons of TV cash by then. He's no going anywhere.

 

To be honest fella, I think sacking him would be the best for all concerned.

 

After all he's tried to do for this club, Benitez doesn't deserve this.

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UncleBingo

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We were set up to lose today; we were never in it, never showed any ambition and allowed Leicester to find space all over the pitch. Rafa is playing games, we’re going down at the moment, Rafa’s parting gift may be to rid us of Ashley at the cost of going down. I’m fine with that but it’s bloody awful to watch.

 

How Atsu stayed on for 90 minutes I’ll never know, swapping Gayle for Rondon looks utter madness just now. Rafa has to give the match going fans something to hold on to. Today was desperate.

 

We've been set up to lose ever since Ashley bought the club man.

 

 

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ujpest doza

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Booing one of his subs man, utter mongs.

Other managers substitutions have been booed in the passed so why shouldn't Rafa's?

 

I can remember people going berzerk (me included) early in Keegans reign when he took Steve Watson off as he seemed to be an easy target as a young kid.

 

Atsu was absolutely shite today and should have gone off for Murphy at Half time (in fact Murphy should have started instead of Atsu).

 

Rafa's hands are tied by a lop sided squad devoid of decent forwards and top heavy with centre halves, but does he really have no input into what we buy? Why buy Schar and then not even have him bench most weeks? Why buy Muto and not play him, it's easier to start games than to come on as sub when we're chasing a game and try and make an impact.

 

Today was a day for playing on the floor with pace yet he still picked Joselu over Muto.

 

I love the bloke and don't think we could do any better ever as manager, but he isn't above criticism and some of his decisions are bizarre and do seem political when we really can't afford to be doing things just to prove a point.

 

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Lots of calls online for him to to, tonight. :???: :rant: I still have faith - the man has been backed into a corner by the owner, who will be sat pissing himself tonight. Because guess who wins again? Not Rafa and not the supporters.

 

Perhaps Ashley's endgame here is to force Rafa to resign, with fans turning on him. Rafa would then have to pay Ashley.......  I don't think the owner is bothered about relegation, as he can sell Lascelles and Shelvey to offset the loss in reveue. And he will also have two seasons of TV cash by then. He's no going anywhere.

  yeh thats about right ..so predictable now
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ujpest doza

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Booing a pretty straightforward sub like that is retarded, don't care if Keegan got a sub booed

It's frustration at the fact that Ritchie gets hooked after an hour nearly every week when there are far more obvious candidates.

 

I just didn't clap, didn't boo, but really understand why a lot did.

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Paulie Walnuts

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People need to get real.  We genuinely have one of the best managers in the world who gets the area and the fans and the potential.  The potential with even moderate backing is off the scale. Currently, he's working with pennies when everyone else has pounds.  There's only so much you can do with this paper thin substandard squad.  Sure he makes mistakes, but there's only one person to blame and turning on the manager plays into his chubby hands

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Our team is shit, the owner is to blame for that and we are in a bad place right now, but that level of performance and how we play is indefensible and Rafa must take a lot of the blame for that. We don’t get bodies forward, we don’t play with any tempo, we don’t get men in the box, we rarely cross and we treat the ball like it’s a fucking grenade.

 

We allowed a Leicester team who are not great themselves to take the piss, it was so easy for them and a comfortable win in the end. Its awful and as bad as anything served up in the last decade. What ever we do in training during the week it’s not working and I refuse to use excuses like this is a Championship team or that’s what you get when you don’t spend money when we play like this, no, that’s what you get when you sit back and don’t even fucking attack.

 

10 minutes to go and we make 5 or so passes between the defenders and ‘keeper instead of looking forward. We don’t even close down quickly these days. The tactics are rubbish, the style is rubbish and yes we do have a rubbish team, but those tactics and our style of play are making it even more rubbish. Sort it out Rafa.

 

We are going down...

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James

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It’s all Ashley’s fault but I feel like the fight had gone again from top to bottom. He needs to win soon to prove this is not the case otherwise from a purely results perspective we’d need someone to come in and bring back some fight and self belief although to be honest i’d rather we just went down with a record low points.

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