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Would you have Rafa back?   

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  1. 1. Would you have Rafa back?

    • Yes, as manager, immediately
    • Yes, as manager, but at some point in the future (eg if relegated)
    • Yes, in an advisory or DoF role
    • No, not in any meaningful capacity

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Crumpy Gunt[/member] Who would you have instead of Rafa? You wanted rid of him when we were winning the championship and finishing 10th.

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From a blog I've just read.

 

Ah Newcastle United; what act has the tragicomic pantomime reached in this international break? Well, on the pitch events continue to demonstrate that Benitez is the Noel Gallagher of football management; washed-up, hopeless, irrelevant and turning into an embarrassment. Indeed, his refusal to allow the likes of Freddy Woodman to go out on loan is more akin to something from Josef Ftizl’s parenting manual. A grand total of 1 point, courtesy of an unconvincing non-display at Selhurst Park where Palace spurned half a dozen gilt-edged chances, was harvested from the latest set of fixtures which included timid and predictable home losses to Arsenal and Leicester, where the ponderous sicknote Rondon (aka Slimani II) was hors de combat with some mysterious ailment that really ought to have precluded his signing in the first place, not to mention the five goal tragedy at Old Trafford. Sels, Lazaar, Games, Manquillo, Slimani and now Rondon; with that kind of record in the transfer market you can understand why Ashley keeps his friends close and his wallet closer.

 

 

 

 

Having widely been predicted as being an unwatchable mess, Mourinho’s Evening of Rehabilitation turned into the game of the season so far, while Liverpool versus Man City stunk the place out. Newcastle enjoyed 70 minutes of untroubled dominance, but a 2-0 lead turned into a desperate late loss as Mourinho kept his job, which is almost as farcical a state of affairs as Benitez keeping his.  At any normal club, things really ought to be hotting up for Benitez, as the newly slimline and frankly rather handsome Mike Ashley has been attending games of late to see El Rey de la Mierda de Toro’s tactical masterclass at first hand.

 

 

 

 

Without question, Ashley has been a devastatingly malign influence on Newcastle United, but the dinosaur tactics, miserable demeanour, rank incompetence in the transfer market and utter inability to accept any responsibility for the dire situation the team is in must all count against Benitez. The owner saw the abject failure in front of goal against Palace and Leicester; no goals scored, and, in the case of the latter game, a defeat assured the moment the team sheet was submitted. Don’t forget the storm of booing that greeted Benitez’s decision to withdraw Matt Ritchie at that game and the vastly increased numbers of fans who are starting to question the way the manager is going about his job. Many more are starting to see the validity in the “If Rafa stays I go” anti bullshit standpoint.

 

 

Who wrote that pile of crap?

 

Benítez, El Rey de la mierda de toro. Seriously?

 

The only bullshit around is in that ‘blog’

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Biggest shower horseshit I’ve ever forced myself to read.

Not much in there that isn't close to hitting the nail on the head. What would you suggest was 'horseshit'? 10 games / no wins. Is it unreasonable to question Rafa? Pardew etc got fucking pelters for such runs. And the boo's at yesterdays substitution?

 

 

Rafa having any responsibility for the players in the squad is utter fucking horseshit. The owners regime and lack of funding is 100% the reason for the squad we have , and therefore hold full responsibility for the fact the manager cant pick a competitive team, and the 'dire situation the team is in.'

 

This guy :thup: the jokes are shit as well

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Absolutely. I just think it highlights it all the more when you ask him who he'd have ahead of Rafa and he suddenly shits himself and goes quiet.

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From a blog I've just read.

 

Ah Newcastle United; what act has the tragicomic pantomime reached in this international break? Well, on the pitch events continue to demonstrate that Benitez is the Noel Gallagher of football management; washed-up, hopeless, irrelevant and turning into an embarrassment. Indeed, his refusal to allow the likes of Freddy Woodman to go out on loan is more akin to something from Josef Ftizl’s parenting manual. A grand total of 1 point, courtesy of an unconvincing non-display at Selhurst Park where Palace spurned half a dozen gilt-edged chances, was harvested from the latest set of fixtures which included timid and predictable home losses to Arsenal and Leicester, where the ponderous sicknote Rondon (aka Slimani II) was hors de combat with some mysterious ailment that really ought to have precluded his signing in the first place, not to mention the five goal tragedy at Old Trafford. Sels, Lazaar, Games, Manquillo, Slimani and now Rondon; with that kind of record in the transfer market you can understand why Ashley keeps his friends close and his wallet closer.

 

 

 

 

Having widely been predicted as being an unwatchable mess, Mourinho’s Evening of Rehabilitation turned into the game of the season so far, while Liverpool versus Man City stunk the place out. Newcastle enjoyed 70 minutes of untroubled dominance, but a 2-0 lead turned into a desperate late loss as Mourinho kept his job, which is almost as farcical a state of affairs as Benitez keeping his.  At any normal club, things really ought to be hotting up for Benitez, as the newly slimline and frankly rather handsome Mike Ashley has been attending games of late to see El Rey de la Mierda de Toro’s tactical masterclass at first hand.

 

 

 

 

Without question, Ashley has been a devastatingly malign influence on Newcastle United, but the dinosaur tactics, miserable demeanour, rank incompetence in the transfer market and utter inability to accept any responsibility for the dire situation the team is in must all count against Benitez. The owner saw the abject failure in front of goal against Palace and Leicester; no goals scored, and, in the case of the latter game, a defeat assured the moment the team sheet was submitted. Don’t forget the storm of booing that greeted Benitez’s decision to withdraw Matt Ritchie at that game and the vastly increased numbers of fans who are starting to question the way the manager is going about his job. Many more are starting to see the validity in the “If Rafa stays I go” anti bullshit standpoint.

 

Bet you spunked all over your cornflakes reading that.

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From a blog I've just read.

 

Ah Newcastle United; what act has the tragicomic pantomime reached in this international break? Well, on the pitch events continue to demonstrate that Benitez is the Noel Gallagher of football management; washed-up, hopeless, irrelevant and turning into an embarrassment. Indeed, his refusal to allow the likes of Freddy Woodman to go out on loan is more akin to something from Josef Ftizl’s parenting manual. A grand total of 1 point, courtesy of an unconvincing non-display at Selhurst Park where Palace spurned half a dozen gilt-edged chances, was harvested from the latest set of fixtures which included timid and predictable home losses to Arsenal and Leicester, where the ponderous sicknote Rondon (aka Slimani II) was hors de combat with some mysterious ailment that really ought to have precluded his signing in the first place, not to mention the five goal tragedy at Old Trafford. Sels, Lazaar, Games, Manquillo, Slimani and now Rondon; with that kind of record in the transfer market you can understand why Ashley keeps his friends close and his wallet closer.

 

 

 

 

Having widely been predicted as being an unwatchable mess, Mourinho’s Evening of Rehabilitation turned into the game of the season so far, while Liverpool versus Man City stunk the place out. Newcastle enjoyed 70 minutes of untroubled dominance, but a 2-0 lead turned into a desperate late loss as Mourinho kept his job, which is almost as farcical a state of affairs as Benitez keeping his.  At any normal club, things really ought to be hotting up for Benitez, as the newly slimline and frankly rather handsome Mike Ashley has been attending games of late to see El Rey de la Mierda de Toro’s tactical masterclass at first hand.

 

 

 

 

Without question, Ashley has been a devastatingly malign influence on Newcastle United, but the dinosaur tactics, miserable demeanour, rank incompetence in the transfer market and utter inability to accept any responsibility for the dire situation the team is in must all count against Benitez. The owner saw the abject failure in front of goal against Palace and Leicester; no goals scored, and, in the case of the latter game, a defeat assured the moment the team sheet was submitted. Don’t forget the storm of booing that greeted Benitez’s decision to withdraw Matt Ritchie at that game and the vastly increased numbers of fans who are starting to question the way the manager is going about his job. Many more are starting to see the validity in the “If Rafa stays I go” anti bullshit standpoint.

 

Bet you spunked all over your cornflakes reading that.

Ha ha. Not quite.

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The syntactical gymnastics (think I just made-up a phrase/concept!) in that article with everything themed toward a transparent anti-Benefiz agenda makes it laugahable. Yet I am guessing you are including it to validate your own anti-Benetiz agenda? Sorry, not just yours. Yours and the ‘vastly increased number of fans,’ (FFS  :lol:). Unless, of course,  you wrote it and are so proud that you feel the need to share more widely.

Not mine unfortunately. Thought it a good read though.

 

The ramblings of a madman with an axe to grind. He's absolutely full of shit, and bitter that he's a compete irrelevance among the NUFC fanbase nowadays.

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Works both ways though. Pardew would've got slated for no win in 9 games, yet people keep ringing Rafa's name out at SJP..

 

Yeah, it's not like one of those managers had a squad full of internationals who were good enough to use us as a stepping stone to Champions League football at the bottom of the league and the other has a squad that was assembled to win the Championship, or anything.

 

The way some people have suddenly decided that, actually, yes Lewis Hamilton is driving against Formula One cars in a Renault Clio, but he's not blameless because he should be doing better and the tactics and pit stops are all wrong, is frankly embarrassing. I'm embarrassed that we have people like that in our fanbase.

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Works both ways though. Pardew would've got slated for no win in 9 games, yet people keep ringing Rafa's name out at SJP..

 

Yeah, it's not like one of those managers had a squad full of internationals who were good enough to use us as a stepping stone to Champions League football at the bottom of the league and the other has a squad that was assembled to win the Championship, or anything.

 

The way some people have suddenly decided that, actually, yes Lewis Hamilton is driving against Formula One cars in a Renault Clio, but he's not blameless because he should be doing better and the tactics and pit stops are all wrong, is frankly embarrassing. I'm embarrassed that we have people like that in our fanbase.

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The syntactical gymnastics (think I just made-up a phrase/concept!) in that article with everything themed toward a transparent anti-Benefiz agenda makes it laugahable. Yet I am guessing you are including it to validate your own anti-Benetiz agenda? Sorry, not just yours. Yours and the ‘vastly increased number of fans,’ (FFS  :lol:). Unless, of course,  you wrote it and are so proud that you feel the need to share more widely.

 

It's just some wanker's blog to put things in perspective, but I did say yesterday that the pundits who have been sympathetic so far to Benitez would start turning pretty fast. Expect that to gather pace this week.

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Works both ways though. Pardew would've got slated for no win in 9 games, yet people keep ringing Rafa's name out at SJP..

 

Crumpy keeps avoiding the question about who he would have in Rafa's place, maybe you have thought it through and have some plausible alternatives?

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Works both ways though. Pardew would've got slated for no win in 9 games, yet people keep ringing Rafa's name out at SJP..

 

Yeah, it's not like one of those managers had a squad full of internationals who were good enough to use us as a stepping stone to Champions League football at the bottom of the league and the other has a squad that was assembled to win the Championship, or anything.

 

The way some people have suddenly decided that, actually, yes Lewis Hamilton is driving against Formula One cars in a Renault Clio, but he's not blameless because he should be doing better and the tactics and pit stops are all wrong, is frankly embarrassing. I'm embarrassed that we have people like that in our fanbase.

 

This is where we are at sadly.

 

Utterly dumb cunts who turn up every other week, can't be arsed to raise their voice or protest in any shape or form against the owner, and have now started to turn on the manager without even taking into account the environment that he is working in.....repeatedly lied to & undermined by the owner, no money spent, cheap players & loans, appalling training facilities, etc. etc.

 

 

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Pardew had a much better squad but also had huge limitations as a manager, I'm told we have a world class manager, the team isn't great but it's better than no wins in 9 and 2 points from Cardiff, Brighton and palace.

 

Nobody thinks Benitez is the big problem here, but he shouldn't be the only manager in history not to be questioned after no wins in 9 ffs.

 

Put the cult hero status to one side for a moment, 1 win in 15, no wins in 9, he's doing incredibly poorly.

 

"But who would you get who do you want to replace him?"

 

I don't want him replaced I want him to do a better job.

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In a weird, peverse way, I'm sick of the defeats being really narrow. Its tiring being "in the game" desperately hoping we'll nick a goal that inevitably never do. Part of me just want to be getting hammered 4-0 after half an hour so I can just switch it off and do something else. Can't bring myself to switch it off while we're in it, but deep down i know we'll never score.

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Works both ways though. Pardew would've got slated for no win in 9 games, yet people keep ringing Rafa's name out at SJP..

 

Yeah, it's not like one of those managers had a squad full of internationals who were good enough to use us as a stepping stone to Champions League football at the bottom of the league and the other has a squad that was assembled to win the Championship, or anything.

 

The way some people have suddenly decided that, actually, yes Lewis Hamilton is driving against Formula One cars in a Renault Clio, but he's not blameless because he should be doing better and the tactics and pit stops are all wrong, is frankly embarrassing. I'm embarrassed that we have people like that in our fanbase.

 

This is where we are at sadly.

 

Utterly dumb c***s who turn up every other week, can't be arsed to raise their voice or protest in any shape or form against the owner, and have now started to turn on the manager without even taking into account the environment that he is working in.....repeatedly lied to & undermined by the owner, no money spent, cheap players & loans, appalling training facilities, etc. etc.

 

Staggering how thick some people are like, i don't consider myself particularly clever either.

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