1964 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Awful part of me fears we'll never hear anything of it again Part of me fears we will, again and again and again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 When is the next PL overseas tv deal up for negotiation anyway? The current one runs until 2019, so should be soon-ish you would imagine, and if projections are correct there will be another huge increase meaning transfer fees will no doubt go up once more. Investing big in January, before this happens, might actually make sense even though summer windows usually provide (slightly) better value for money. You also have to consider there will be players looking to move to get into WC squads that could play to our advantage if we have a decent amount to spend. In short, I don’t think it’s a given that waiting to invest big is a good idea per se for an ambitious new owner with funds available, especially considering the treath of relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 When is the next PL overseas tv deal up for negotiation anyway? The current one runs until 2019, so should be soon-ish you would imagine, and if projections are correct there will be another huge increase meaning transfer fees will no doubt go up once more. Investing big in January, before this happens, might actually make sense even though summer windows usually provide (slightly) better value for money. You also have to consider there will be players looking to move to get into WC squads that could play to our advantage if we have a decent amount to spend. In short, I don’t think it’s a given that waiting to invest big is a good idea per se for an ambitious new owner with funds available, especially considering the treath of relegation. Bids should be in January and announcement of new deal in February Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Awful part of me fears we'll never hear anything of it again Part of me fears we will, again and again and again Its went way too far for that. If the club doesn't get sold, there will be a statement from Ashley and if PCP pull out, there will be a statement from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Part of me is thinking that maybe it's done, but we wont make it official until after January. If it's announced prior to January and clubs get wind of an obvious cash injection, we could get stung in the January market. Could be keeping our cards close to our chest for the sake of spending in January. Wishful thinking maybe like. My line of thought was the same initially, but the way the market is at the moment, it doesn't matter what budget you have, even s*** players are going to cost 'silly' money. Whether you have a budget of 10m or 100m you are going to pay over the odds. Remember, most clubs do not actively want to lose their players, especially their better players (unless you're owned by Ashley and managed by Pardew!), so it will always take silly money to prize them away. Walker to Man City for example. My feeling now is the club do not want to have a huge or bigger wage bill while our position as PL club is precarious and I feel an announcement of a takeover would send agents into a frenzy in that regard. It is these leeches that dictate transfers and the transfer market and not so much the clubs. If we are suddenly flush with cash, a 10m player we could afford on say 40K a week could quickly become a 10m player demanding 80k a week. If anything I think this, coupled with a modest budget which has to go hand in hand, would be a factor in not announcing an official takeover and not so much not wanting to be fleeced on player valuations. Its the summer and I'm the agent of Joselu, Newcastle come calling, I pretty much know their ceiling on wages and what most of their current players are on, NUFC will know what he's currently on and will have a good indication of what he would accept and working together the club and agent agree a fee. Post takeover and I'm the agent of Joselu, Newcastle are at the bottom end, its January, and I'm going to dictate the terms here and ask for a hell of a lot more for my client. Conversely, if I'm Stoke and NUFC are flush with cash, Joselu will cost you 10m and not 5m... I can definitely see logic in delaying an announcement either way. For me though, the biggest hold up is the actual legalities of it all, FA and PL ratification and the transfer of total ownership from marketing deals, kit sponsors, players contracts, any land leases and other contractual obligations. A lot of that can be worked around, but if these are serious people, they will want everything signed, sealed and well delivered. I imagine Ashley would want the same also, so he has no on going obligations to the 'business' as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Will be announced tomorrow. Nailed on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 When is the next PL overseas tv deal up for negotiation anyway? The current one runs until 2019, so should be soon-ish you would imagine, and if projections are correct there will be another huge increase meaning transfer fees will no doubt go up once more. Investing big in January, before this happens, might actually make sense even though summer windows usually provide (slightly) better value for money. You also have to consider there will be players looking to move to get into WC squads that could play to our advantage if we have a decent amount to spend. In short, I don’t think it’s a given that waiting to invest big is a good idea per se for an ambitious new owner with funds available, especially considering the treath of relegation. Bids should be in January and announcement of new deal in February 2018? If true we may well see prices go up massively in the summer (again). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It's most likely that we are targeting players at clubs higher up in the table who are not getting much game time- in which case we need to get the deals over the line as soon as possible to help them get up to speed but that also allows us to have those deals agreed in principle ready to go through once the window opens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Will be announced tomorrow. Nailed on. The Queen will announce it at 3pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 When is the next PL overseas tv deal up for negotiation anyway? The current one runs until 2019, so should be soon-ish you would imagine, and if projections are correct there will be another huge increase meaning transfer fees will no doubt go up once more. Investing big in January, before this happens, might actually make sense even though summer windows usually provide (slightly) better value for money. You also have to consider there will be players looking to move to get into WC squads that could play to our advantage if we have a decent amount to spend. In short, I don’t think it’s a given that waiting to invest big is a good idea per se for an ambitious new owner with funds available, especially considering the treath of relegation. Bids should be in January and announcement of new deal in February I saw an interview with Rupert Murdoch the other day and he said that the next TV rights deal will be massive and he thinks that at least 4 different companies will sign contracts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Will be announced tomorrow. Nailed on. The Queen will announce it at 3pm. Along with her abdication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Will be announced tomorrow. Nailed on. The Queen will announce it at 3pm. Nearly spat me coffee out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Worth remembering the original statement said if it couldnt be concluded by christmas there was no intention to sell the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Worth remembering the original statement said if it couldnt be concluded by christmas there was no intention to sell the club. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hope his Turkey turns out to be a skunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Happy Christmas everyone! It will be announced on New Years Eve! Enjoy the pudding today ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hope he chokes as he crosses the last t and dots the last i. Rather he dies after it’s signed but before he can get out of his chair to spend his money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Worth remembering the original statement said if it couldnt be concluded by christmas there was no intention to sell the club. It didn't? https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/statement-from-st-james-holdings-limited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 The statement didn't say it BUT I think his lawyer said there is time for it to be done by Christmas, if not then there isn't a desire to just sell at any price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Aye, it was lawyer in charge of it. Got mixed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hope he chokes as he crosses the last t and dots the last i. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When is the next PL overseas tv deal up for negotiation anyway? The current one runs until 2019, so should be soon-ish you would imagine, and if projections are correct there will be another huge increase meaning transfer fees will no doubt go up once more. Investing big in January, before this happens, might actually make sense even though summer windows usually provide (slightly) better value for money. You also have to consider there will be players looking to move to get into WC squads that could play to our advantage if we have a decent amount to spend. In short, I don’t think it’s a given that waiting to invest big is a good idea per se for an ambitious new owner with funds available, especially considering the treath of relegation. Bids should be in January and announcement of new deal in February 2018? If true we may well see prices go up massively in the summer (again). Yup. The new tv deal kicks in the season after next but when the bidding starts next month and the deal announced in February, you just know prices will go up this summer as clubs want to ensure they are in the queue when the new deal starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hope he chokes as he crosses the last t and dots the last i. Thank you for saving me the hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hope he chokes as he crosses the last t and dots the last i. Thank you for saving me the hassle. Took me a f**cking age that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Worth remembering the original statement said if it couldnt be concluded by christmas there was no intention to sell the club. Mike Ashley is known for his steadfast consistency and rigid adherence to public statements I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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