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Guest Howaythetoon

Been told to expect sale rumours to start up again after the season ends with a stake in the club up for grabs thrown into the mix as well incase it doesnt sell straight away or at all. An option the club will turn to in order to fund Rafa’s ambitious plans to replace tap water with water dispensers and to make Rondon’s loan a permanent deal among other things. Other options are renaming the stadium and a Wonga loan. That’s how far the club are prepared to go to secure Rafa and give him extra funds.

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I fully expect sale talk to start once the season is finished, basically whenever any transfer window pops up. All part of the process now.

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Been told to expect sale rumours to start up again after the season ends with a stake in the club up for grabs thrown into the mix as well incase it doesnt sell straight away or at all. An option the club will turn to in order to fund Rafa’s ambitious plans to replace tap water with water dispensers and to make Rondon’s loan a permanent deal among other things. Other options are renaming the stadium and a Wonga loan. That’s how far the club are prepared to go to secure Rafa and give him extra funds.

 

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Howay man HTT.

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Guest neesy111

HTT is a sound bloke, but I wouldn't believe anyone when it comes to the sale of NUFC after 12 years of lies by Mike Ashley and co.

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To be fair I crack on with HTT from time time away from here. The jokes in there aside I think theirs reason to believe his info.

 

But we've learned from Staveley and Kenyon, even when there is clearly things going on in the background, it never reaches it's conclusion.

It's therefore pointless believing that a new bid will do anything other than end up down another dead end.

 

 

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Guest firetotheworks

HTT is a sound bloke, but I wouldn't believe anyone when it comes to the sale of NUFC after 12 years of lies by Mike Ashley and co.

That’s fair, but HTT can only pass on what he’s heard.

 

Aye, but he also told me that dogs can't look up.

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:yao:

 

Don't believe a single word of it.  Sorry HTT.

 

None of it is exactly true of course in that there will be no real truth in the matter, but don’t be surprised if sometime during pre-season you read stories in the media about MA willing to sell a stake in the club in order to do what it takes to give Rafa some extra coin, there will be no sale of shares of course just as there will be no sale of the club.

 

Rafa has been assured of x funds which are basically a tad more than what he’s been given already and his training ground/facilities/academy plans have also been assured, but only because it’s an annual investment and won’t cost serious money. He wants a bigger budget every season though and if he sticks around, there will be more funds to give him that, but only if MA can sell a stake in it, and even more if they can get some money from stadium renamining rights, and if not, there will be plenty when it’s sold eventually. Stick around Rafa. We are working on it. Wait!

 

12 months later? Mug :lol:

 

Those water dispensers btw, they are on lease...

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HTT is a sound bloke, but I wouldn't believe anyone when it comes to the sale of NUFC after 12 years of lies by Mike Ashley and co.

That’s fair, but HTT can only pass on what he’s heard.

The clue is in the bit about a Wonga loan.

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Anyone who knows me knows I do talk a load of shite :lol:, but I don’t spread bull shit or lies. Just passing on info that I believe anyway holds some truth in terms of what we can expect to hear soon.

 

All I do know is the club won’t be sold anytime soon and I do believe Rafa will not be signing a new contract.

 

Also heard Charnley is looking to leave, he has several offers and as much as I slag the bloke, I think he feels he’s being used and is sick of being in the middle having to try and make Ashley look at Rafa’s POV and vice versa. He did a lot of groundwork to convince Ashley to attend games, meet the manager and players and has also pushed for Rafa’s plans for the academy, training ground, facilities etc. to go ahead. The man has to report to Barnes FFS who doesn’t even have an official role at the club. I genuinely think he’s tried to make both sides work.

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Anyone who knows me knows I do talk a load of shite :lol:, but I don’t spread bull shit or lies. Just passing on info that I believe anyway holds some truth in terms of what we can expect to hear soon.

 

All I do know is the club won’t be sold anytime soon and I do believe Rafa will not be signing a new contract.

 

Also heard Charnley is looking to leave, he has several offers and as much as I slag the bloke, I think he feels he’s being used and is sick of being in the middle having to try and make Ashley look at Rafa’s POV and vice versa. He did a lot of groundwork to convince Ashley to attend games, meet the manager and players and has also pushed for Rafa’s plans for the academy, training ground, facilities etc. to go ahead. The man has to report to Barnes FFS who doesn’t even have an official role at the club. I genuinely think he’s tried to make both sides work.

Charnley has a job waiting for him at the airport, the guy in charge there used to be his boss at NUFC.
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Anyone who knows me knows I do talk a load of shite :lol:, but I don’t spread bull shit or lies. Just passing on info that I believe anyway holds some truth in terms of what we can expect to hear soon.

 

All I do know is the club won’t be sold anytime soon and I do believe Rafa will not be signing a new contract.

 

Also heard Charnley is looking to leave, he has several offers and as much as I slag the bloke, I think he feels he’s being used and is sick of being in the middle having to try and make Ashley look at Rafa’s POV and vice versa. He did a lot of groundwork to convince Ashley to attend games, meet the manager and players and has also pushed for Rafa’s plans for the academy, training ground, facilities etc. to go ahead. The man has to report to Barnes FFS who doesn’t even have an official role at the club. I genuinely think he’s tried to make both sides work.

Charnley has a job waiting for him at the airport, the guy in charge there used to be his boss at NUFC.

Baggage handler? Passport control?

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Anyone who knows me knows I do talk a load of shite :lol:, but I don’t spread bull shit or lies. Just passing on info that I believe anyway holds some truth in terms of what we can expect to hear soon.

 

All I do know is the club won’t be sold anytime soon and I do believe Rafa will not be signing a new contract.

 

Also heard Charnley is looking to leave, he has several offers and as much as I slag the bloke, I think he feels he’s being used and is sick of being in the middle having to try and make Ashley look at Rafa’s POV and vice versa. He did a lot of groundwork to convince Ashley to attend games, meet the manager and players and has also pushed for Rafa’s plans for the academy, training ground, facilities etc. to go ahead. The man has to report to Barnes FFS who doesn’t even have an official role at the club. I genuinely think he’s tried to make both sides work.

Charnley has a job waiting for him at the airport, the guy in charge there used to be his boss at NUFC.

Baggage handler? Passport control?

 

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Guest neesy111

I'd bet Charnley has been wanting to leave for years but is afraid to put his notice in to Ashley, hasn't he basically worked at NUFC across his whole career so far?

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Stiffer is a little confused. The CEO of Newcastle Airport, Nick Jones, has never worked for Newcastle United.

 

John Irving, who used to be Finance Director at Newcastle United and then moved on to Newcastle Airport, is now the Chief Executive of Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

 

None of the current executive leadership team at Newcastle Airport have worked for Newcastle United. Though one is currently a trustee of the NUFC Foundation.

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Stiffer is a little confused. The CEO of Newcastle Airport, Nick Jones, has never worked for Newcastle United.

 

John Irving, who used to be Finance Director at Newcastle United and then moved on to Newcastle Airport, is now the Chief Executive of Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

 

None of the current executive leadership team at Newcastle Airport have worked for Newcastle United. Though one is currently a trustee of the NUFC Foundation.

Fuck, thought Irving went to NCL first, oh well.
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Kenyon man :lol:

 

He was nothing more than a broker between both parties, MA and the buyer (US investment vehicle I believe). It wont show in the accounts, but NUFC paid him a fee as did the other side. He introduced both parties to each other and kind of involved himself taking on the role of a broker, first approaching MA his ‘friend’ and then going to his other ‘friends’ in the US to interest them in a deal, even offering to run the club as chairman for them if they bought it.

 

In the end they learned he was working more for Ashley than as an independent and they walked away.

 

Had they succeeded in buying the club, whether they would have taken Kenyon up on his kind offer to run the club as chairman or not, we will never know. I personally believe the likelihood of that was slim. Kenyon never the less certainly positioned himself to be the right man for the job which was his aim all along.

 

Kenyon and Ashley know each other via Umbro and Ashley before he bought NUFC attended a few Chelsea games at the invitation of Kenyon, a club he privately ‘supports’ as a result. Kenyon introduced Jimenez and Wise to Ashley, Wise was someone Kenyon would have recommended as manager to the US investment vehicle post takeover to replace Rafa if they failed to secure him or if the club were relegated.

 

He’s still under recommendation and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if in the near future he become our manager or more likely much sooner MD. It wouldn’t surprise me at all either if Vardy signed for us one day soon, both Kenyon and Wise and indeed Ashley all having a financial ‘relationshop’ with either the player or more significantly his wife.

 

The bid Kenyon was involved in was real, but talk of Kenyon being the lead man or becoming the owner is complete bullshit. He failed to sell MA’s pitch to investors who walked away because of the conditions MA inserted.

 

Conditions Stavely and her backers had reached a compromise over 12 months previously, everything pretty much a done deal until Ashley suddenly changed his mind, rumoured based on finding out Stavely was pally with Rafa, local journos and various fan groups.

 

Of the two, IMO, the US Kenyon lot would have been the better owners because they saw NUFC as a worthy investment long term for their clients one of whom is actually a NUFC fan, the plan to raise the profile in the States, invest in the infrastructure and increase revenues, with Rafa leading the way. Their plan wasn’t to make a quick profit, but to make an asset out of NUFC akin to an investor owning real estate in a prime location.

 

Stavely on the other hand, her backers wanted a tangible return and their plans were short term based on quick fixes. She herself would have been an ideal chairwoman if it was her own money used to buy the club or if she was appointed to run the club for the other backers. Her backers though would have bought the club on finance, with any investment also on finance. The fact they were prepared to pay MA’s asking price and compromise to certain conditions was telling, loans alone would cover that. Loans that would need repaid at a premium. The others didn’t need loans, their investment returning an assett worth more than a small % of interest on their money.

 

Kenyon as chairman? He would have been a good chairman to run the club in terms of business expertise and acumen, but he would have been self serving working for himself, players and managers signed, partnerships and sponsorships concluded, all to profit him and his associates first and foremost. That’s why he tried to sell the club and positioned himself to run it, which would have given MA a controlling stake over retail, advertising and even a place on the board. A chairmen who would have employed Wise as manager.

 

Is the club for sale? Of course, but it will only happen if MA went bust or was skint, if no-one turned up or if someone offered him 400m or so no strings attached.

 

There are lots of people who want to buy the club. He’s been offered his money back by wealthy Toon fans who would give him stadium, shirt and retail operation rights. KK himself has been approached, but refuses to deal with him and MA refuses to deal with KK likewise. He’s been offered 300m twice now in the space .

 

He is here to stay for a very long time though I’m afraid. Unless fans stop going anyway. That’s the only way.

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There's an awwwwwful lot there that is subject to conjecture and/or impossible to confirm. Like, I appreciate the effort of typing out what you've been told, but critical thinking demands one says "wait, hang on" several times...

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