Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Lineker’s on one about VAR on Twitter tonight. This is fair enough, but he works for two broadcasters who are part of the reason VAR is used in the first place. If the likes of MOTD & BT Sports didn’t micro analyse every decision to the nth degree, show every incident and offside in super slo-mo from loads of different angles, using their own graphics with their own lines trying to prove if it’s offside or not for instance, then maybe VAR wouldn’t have been needed. Should make an agreement with the various football bodies, they’ll stop with all that if VAR is scrapped. Show a replay once in real time, give an opinion, then get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Lineker’s on one about VAR on Twitter tonight. This is fair enough, but he works for two broadcasters who are part of the reason VAR is used in the first place. If the likes of MOTD & BT Sports didn’t micro analyse every decision to the nth degree, show every incident and offside in super slo-mo from loads of different angles, using their own graphics with their own lines trying to prove if it’s offside or not for instance, then maybe VAR wouldn’t have been needed. Should make an agreement with the various football bodies, they’ll stop with all that if VAR is scrapped. Show a replay once in real time, give an opinion, then get on with it. Rory Smith was on about this the other day. I’m massively anti VAR but for the broadcasters you reap what you sow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Come on over to our side Nut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Imagine if all new technology was scrapped after not working perfectly within 4 months VAR will come good. It will never be perfect but it will be miles better and fairer than the refereeing we've had up until now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Love how it makes things fairer by letting completely anonymous people decide if there's been the slightest infringement somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 It's not "new technology", it's a camera. It's not going to make decisions in football any more objective than they have been since the late 19th century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 How long we supposed to wait? I went to a game in Ligue Un this season and it was held up for 2-3 mins and no-one had a clue what was going on aside from they were doing a check for something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Come on over to our side Nut. I’m getting there. I’m now of the opinion where if we’re using it for offsides, let the referee or whoever’s watching the replay see it once in real time. If he can’t call it offside, give the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I'm bored senseless with it now. Almost irrespective of how well it does or doesn't work, every frigging week it's a major talking point and it's tedious as fuck. I don't see how that will change either, even if it does become more functional; the margins are so fine and the majority of infringements are - to an extent - subjective. VAR exacerbates the issue by pouring over matters which are ultimately just borderline. I watch a tiny amount of rugby but more often than not the referee is basically the top cast member and I'm worried about football going that way too; it's abysmal for the spectacle. They've had it in the Bundesliga for a couple of years, haven't they? Is it any less insufferable over there now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Come on over to our side Nut. I’m getting there. I’m now of the opinion where if we’re using it for offsides, let the referee or whoever’s watching the replay see it once in real time. If he can’t call it offside, give the goal. Agree with that. Go over to the screen, watch it and see if it's clearly offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Maybe one day in the future they'll have the tech like for goal-line technology where an offside is called straight away but it's not working with how they're using it up to now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Maybe one day in the future they'll have the tech like for goal-line technology where an offside is called straight away but it's not working with how they're using it up to now. It still corrects far more than without it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Aren't lineman being told to keep their flags down though? So not sure how you measure it corrects more than without it. That's without going into the debate about the quality of the camera pixels, straight lines etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Well i don't know the figures but with a replay it's obvious they are going to get more right than wrong, yes there's been a few that have been almost too close to call, but they are in the minority. I wouldn't be against using it for offsides only, as everything else is too much a matter of opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It's just got a spot on decision in the Toulouse-Marseille match mind. Originally it was a yellow, VAR looked and saw the tackle was knee high, ref went and looked himself and changed to a red. Correct decision. Fuck knows what I think about VAR tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Nowt wrong with VAR. Just the idiots that interpret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Nowt wrong with VAR. Just the idiots that interpret it. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Aren't lineman being told to keep their flags down though? That's what I thought, but in one of our games (around September I think) Almiron was clean through about 45 yards out and got flagged and the ref blowed. Replay showed him about two feet onside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 We had.a few like that early on, seems to have settled now. Think initially it was probably still just about instinctively flagging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The gys that invented VAR have already created VAVAR. Gonna test it at Euro 2020. 3 years time Thierry Henry will patent VAVARVOOM. And at last ophthalmic opticians will get involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Good day for VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Good day for VAR. My favourite bit was when Mings felt like he couldn't celebrate a goal until the guys in the office watched it in microscopic detail 14 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Good day for VAR. My favourite bit was when Mings felt like he couldn't celebrate a goal until the guys in the office watched it in microscopic detail 14 times. My favourite bit was when the linesman incorrectly ruled out Iheanacho's goal and then VAR overruled them and the goal was correctly rewarded with massive celebrations on the Leicester bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Good day for VAR. My favourite bit was when Mings felt like he couldn't celebrate a goal until the guys in the office watched it in microscopic detail 14 times. My favourite bit was when the linesman incorrectly ruled out Iheanacho's goal and then VAR overruled them and the goal was correctly rewarded with massive celebrations on the Leicester bench Spoils celebrations though apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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