Jump to content

Group D - Argentina, Iceland, Croatia, Nigeria - CRO & ARG advance


Wullie
[[Template core/global/global/poll is throwing an error. This theme may be out of date. Run the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme.]]

Recommended Posts

Guest Howaythetoon

They won it in 86 of course and have made finals, but have Argentina ever been a great team over any length of time? Considering the talent they have had to call on over the years, much like with England, I always found them utterly boring.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Argentina in '06 were the exact opposite of boring like. They were the best team to watch in the tournament by an absolute mile and they'd have won it if Peckerman hadn't been a complete idiot vs Germany imo.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

What’s wrong with Argentina? We now value ‘balls’ more than talent

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/25/argentina-what-is-wrong-lionel-messi-football?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_WhatsApp

 

This infernal racket conditions everything, a deafening noise that surrounds everything and made the Argentinian people believe that if Messi does not win a World Cup he will never be Maradona; that made Messi himself believe it.

 

Thirty-three titles later, Messi has taken that message to heart and when the World Cup starts he becomes a tortured soul who carries the fierce demands of 45 million people on his shoulders. And yet it’s not true: Messi has defended Argentina’s footballing pride like no one else for 15 years now and he has done so with an astonishing, scandalous consistency. But that perception became received wisdom and Messi is treated as if he was any old player by journalists who demand an excellence from him they cannot even dream of.

Link to post
Share on other sites

What’s wrong with Argentina? We now value ‘balls’ more than talent

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/25/argentina-what-is-wrong-lionel-messi-football?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_WhatsApp

 

This infernal racket conditions everything, a deafening noise that surrounds everything and made the Argentinian people believe that if Messi does not win a World Cup he will never be Maradona; that made Messi himself believe it.

 

Thirty-three titles later, Messi has taken that message to heart and when the World Cup starts he becomes a tortured soul who carries the fierce demands of 45 million people on his shoulders. And yet it’s not true: Messi has defended Argentina’s footballing pride like no one else for 15 years now and he has done so with an astonishing, scandalous consistency. But that perception became received wisdom and Messi is treated as if he was any old player by journalists who demand an excellence from him they cannot even dream of.

 

Good, interesting read from "The Philosopher".

Link to post
Share on other sites

Argentina in '06 were the exact opposite of boring like. They were the best team to watch in the tournament by an absolute mile and they'd have won it if Peckerman hadn't been a complete idiot vs Germany imo.

 

Yep, they are the finest example of a manager fucking up a team being the reason they didn't win a tournament IMO. Pekerman is great but that day he massively fucked up.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Argentina in '06 were the exact opposite of boring like. They were the best team to watch in the tournament by an absolute mile and they'd have won it if Peckerman hadn't been a complete idiot vs Germany imo.

 

Yep, they are the finest example of a manager fucking up a team being the reason they didn't win a tournament IMO. Pekerman is great but that day he massively fucked up.

 

I’ll never forget it. Had a Crespo to be top scorer and Argentina to win the tournament double bet on.

 

1-0 up with 20 minutes to go and the guy takes his star striker Crespo and the team’s playmaker Riquelme off. Brings on some holding midfielder and fucking Roque Shitty Cruz. 1-0 up lads, what could possibly go wrong?!

 

Then Germany equalize and your two best players are no longer on the field. Oh, you also had to make a sub due to your injured keeper (before the other subs) so you have no subs left. Not that you’d want to bring that young Messi fella on anyway.

 

Just got angry again just thinking about it. :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Putting my hatred for Pardew and that 1-2 home loss to Reading to one side for a moment, objectively it's the worst managerial decision I've ever witnessed like. Even if it was 2-0 and not 1-0 it wouldn't be that bad, even it hadn't been against the Germans it might not have been that bad, taking off any other players in that moment might not have been as bad, bringing on Messi might not have been that bad, doing it with five minutes to go and not twenty minutes to go and it might not have been that bad. He ticked every single stupid box. :lol:

 

Even at the time it was obvious what was going to happen, it has to be up there as one of the most retarded managerial decisions of all time.

 

Taking off your best two players, neither of them for Messi, with a 1 goal lead, and twenty minutes to go, against Germany, in a World Cup knockout game. :lol: It's pretty much suicide.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Nigeria are playing with 433 so will outnumber them in the middle, where they're already at their weakest. It's also a formation that doesn't get the best out of Messi. Unless there's a tactical plan, it just seems like a really basic error.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nigeria are playing with 433 so will outnumber them in the middle, where they're already at their weakest. It's also a formation that doesn't get the best out of Messi. Unless there's a tactical plan, it just seems like a really basic error.

They played 442 at Barca last season

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...