JonBez comesock Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I’ve never rated him although I have to admit he had a bit of a purple patch two seasons ago. I’ve always thought he would be a perfect championship player at Watford or Similar. Maybe join his brother in Toronto. His brain isn’t quick enough in tight spaces and constantly gets it stuck in his feet. DILLY DALLY TASTIC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 11 hours ago, Pixelphish said: Hope his head's ok. Had a poor showing against Bromley as well. Looks pre Howe in his self confidence. You can almost see it in his body language. Obviously didn't help when his Grandad didn't back him to come on against Liverpool in the video his brother made. Still to this day don't understand why they allowed that to be aired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Looks pre Howe in his self confidence. You can almost see it in his body language. Obviously didn't help when his Grandad didn't back him to come on against Liverpool in the video his brother made. Still to this day don't understand why they allowed that to be aired What's this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I know we need a squad and we do need 6 midfielders for this system. But there’s not much point in having him around if he looks nowhere near the standard required against League 2 and League 1 (Championship) opposition. I’m glad he managed to contribute in the end and after the 3rd goal. He did look better. But when we were building decent possession and attacks. All night it would break down when it got to him. He’s nowhere near good enough in a team that wants more than 30-40% of the ball per game. It was always going to happen at some point with the vast majority of the pre-takeover players. But we’ve out-grown him as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Lad has barely played so can’t be match fit. I also feel he's probably a confidence player and looks low on it atm. Run of games would probably help. But it's difficult to see him starting in the league atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Touch and turning speed of an artic. Its like watching a panto where you have to shout He's behind you .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) Raises and lowers his game to who we're playing. Lack of match fitness and confidence weigh heavier on him than other players too. For what it's worth, he wasn't alone in lowering his performance last night, first half especially, we were collectively shite. Edited February 9 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, Heron said: Raises and lowers his game to who we're playing. Lack of match fitness and confidence weigh heavier on him than other players too. For what it's worth, he wasn't alone in lowering his performance last night, first half especially, we were collectively shite. In fairness we tend to look a bit hit and miss every time we seem to heavily rotate - maybe that’s down to a lack of quality in the latter part of the squad which needs bulking over the summer with a few going out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 17 minutes ago, Heron said: Raises and lowers his game to who we're playing. Lack of match fitness and confidence weigh heavier on him than other players too. For what it's worth, he wasn't alone in lowering his performance last night, first half especially, we were collectively shite. Think describing us as collectively shite for that first half performance is harsh. Disjointed to start but actually we controlled the game well after an early set back. Those were exceptionally difficult conditions for a patchwork team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mikky said: In fairness we tend to look a bit hit and miss every time we seem to heavily rotate - maybe that’s down to a lack of quality in the latter part of the squad which needs bulking over the summer with a few going out Any team does though, that's the thing. It's very unusual for a side to heavily rotate and maintain the same standard of performance. I am a big supporter of Longstaff and always have been but sadly, he's probably 6th in the pecking order for CMs that can influence the game (from an attackng perspective) now. As Howe says, he holds very different qualities to the other midfielders and they all bring something. For me, I'd bring him on ahead of Willock or Miley when we're trying to see a game out and tighten up, but when we're trying to impose ourselves on the game it'd be Miley or Willock. Our best 3 very much remain Bruno, Sandro and Joelinton. Folk are very fast to sell him down the river mind... Edited February 9 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Think describing us as collectively shite for that first half performance is harsh. Disjointed to start but actually we controlled the game well after an early set back. Those were exceptionally difficult conditions for a patchwork team. We created little and got two dubious goals, we could have quite easily conceded a few more too. We weren't anywhere near good enough out of possession. One thing to have possession but it's another thing to have control, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I disagree. They pressed aggressively and we coped with it well. Prior to the wonder strike we were well in control of the game. Not sure what was dubious about the goals beyond did the ball cross the line on the first. They had a deflected goal for the first, a cross that was headed wide and the side foot chance, but they were always going to have chances. We play a direct 4-3-3 and the most important player in terms of tightening up the defensive performance of the team (Tonali) wasn’t on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 If they hadn’t scored the blockbuster we go in 2-1 up against a team that was tiring quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, Heron said: Any team does though, that's the thing. It's very unusual for a side to heavily rotate and maintain the same standard of performance. I am a big supporter of Longstaff and always have been but sadly, he's probably 6th in the pecking order for CMs that can influence the game (from an attackng perspective) now. As Howe says, he holds very different qualities to the other midfielders and they all bring something. For me, I'd bring him on ahead of Willock or Miley when we're trying to see a game out and tighten up, but when we're trying to impose ourselves on the game it'd be Miley or Willock. Our best 3 very much remain Bruno, Sandro and Joelinton. Folk are very fast to sell him down the river mind... I just think with Longstaff the ceiling has already been reached - great servant, great bloke - sometimes a change can benefit, plus he’s at a stage where he should be playing week in week out for someone CM is an area I highlighted that we need someone to supplement the quality of Tonali and Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 He’s been outplayed by Blackburn, Bromley and Birmingham players in recently memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The press largely have Longstaff rated a 7 yesterday. Higher than the majority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 We under-value him. Always have since it turned out he wasn’t a £50m player good enough for Manchester Utd. Hes a fine understudy, good character, home grown which is useful for Europe. Not good enough to start regular, and I don’t want to rely on him. However it will be very rare the reason we lose is solely down to him. There are 10 other players on the pitch too. Would be a good pick up for a lot of teams. Happy to sell, but only when it suits the club. I trust Eddie to make that call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, Pablo said: We under-value him. Always have since it turned out he wasn’t a £50m player good enough for Manchester Utd. Hes a fine understudy, good character, home grown which is useful for Europe. Not good enough to start regular, and I don’t want to rely on him. However it will be very rare the reason we lose is solely down to him. There are 10 other players on the pitch too. Would be a good pick up for a lot of teams. Happy to sell, but only when it suits the club. I trust Eddie to make that call. He seems to have completely regressed to me. A couple of seasons ago I thought we had a star in the making but he just hasn't kicked on. He looks like a confidence player and that looks completely shot. Not getting games might be the reason like but he was a passenger until his assist yesterday. If he doesn't bring anything then he's really not good enough for the bench either. Would be a solid Championship player though. Shame because he seems a cracking lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: If they hadn’t scored the blockbuster we go in 2-1 up against a team that was tiring quickly. If they had goal line tech it would have been 1-1. 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Ah so now Miggy's gone its lets all slag off Longstaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Nah, it's "let's describe what we see with our eyes" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Just now, Choppy Chop Chop said: Ah so now Miggy's gone its lets all slag off Longstaff I think people are entitled to an opinion tries his best, one of us and fits a certain game and offers us home grown at club depth are all valid points. We also not going to have a Bruno/Tonali level player for each position. However if it seems like it's his time to get it now Miggy has gone is because he's an obvious weak link in the side. I was done with him last season and nights like last night against lesser opposition does not sway me that we should just take a fee and part ways. Hopefully a fresh start will do him some good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Turnbull2000 said: The press largely have Longstaff rated a 7 yesterday. Higher than the majority. Says more about the press watching the games than how he actually played. I’m grateful for everything Lobby has given the club but between last season and seeing him v Bromley and Birmingham now, the regression in his game has become quite stark. This time a year ago I watched him against Fulham in the 4th round and he was effective. Fast-forward a year and he was clumsy, passive and frightened yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 16 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said: Ah so now Miggy's gone its lets all slag off Longstaff Not in the slightest. Sean has done years as a brilliant servant for the club, with some truly special memories like PSG. However the club is striving to progress and there are always going to be those like Miggy, Lobby and Callum who get left behind. Look at Micah Richards, Hart and others at Citeh. Doesn’t mean they leave on bad terms, genuinely most of us wish them the best and thank them, but PSR means no more passengers and romanticism as you can’t have people not pulling weight on decent wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, loki679 said: What's this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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