Miguel Almirón (now playing for Atlanta United)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Thought he was quite good today

[TRon]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Thought he was quite good today

 

Apart from when he has to make a decisive pass or hit a decent shot. 

[Rafalove]

I keep saying this but he’s never played in his correct position or even his second best position which is left wing. He’s the most one footed player in the league who is always moved out to the right. Maxi I think is just as capable on either wing from what I’ve seen so why not swap them over?

[HaydnNUFC]

His decision making is really poor. Has the assets to be a canny player but his decision making lets him down time and time again. 

[MarkyMark]

On 13/12/2021 at 09:36, Kaizero said:

 

Different standard of league, but watching him and Martinez for Atlanta United was immense. Only time he's been used in his natural position was under Rafa, and as you say, that's when we saw glimpses of what he actually can do. 

Almiron under Rafa - 10 games 0 goals 0 assists

Almiron this season - 15 games 0 goals 0 assists

 

The great statistical gods are trying to tell us something, I think

[Heron]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

His decision making is really poor. Has the assets to be a canny player but his decision making lets him down time and time again. 

I think this is an issue with a lot of our players. Today, you could say several all made the wrong choices rather than a poor execution.

 

Dubravka: The pass to Lascelles and not taking control of his 6 yard box for the first

 

Clark: Not taking responsibility for heading clear the first

 

Willock: Aimlessly chasing the ball on the second rather thsn showing awareness fo what was around him

 

ASM: Pissing about on the edge of the box

 

Wilson: Being a bit too selfish and not releasing it early enough

 

There were probably a fair few others, but those were the stand out ones for me. 

[HaydnNUFC]

Just now, Heron said:

I think this is an issue with a lot of our players. Today, you could say several all made the wrong choices rather than a poor execution.

 

Dubravka: The pass to Lascelles and not taking control of his 6 yard box for the first

 

Clark: Not taking responsibility for heading clear the first

 

Willock: Aimlessly chasing the ball on the second rather thsn showing awareness fo what was around him

 

ASM: Pissing about on the edge of the box

 

Wilson: Being a bit too selfish and not releasing it early enough

 

There were probably a fair few others, but those were the stand out ones for me. 

 

Was trying to think of a way to word exactly this. Decision making today was awful, from the defence to Wilson and ASM. Better decision making and we'd have had a few chances today. Instead we're being punished, oppositions are taking every chance they get more or less against us and we fuck up when we have opportunities. 

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Was trying to think of a way to word exactly this. Decision making today was awful, from the defence to Wilson and ASM. Better decision making and we'd have had a few chances today. Instead we're being punished, oppositions are taking every chance they get more or less against us and we fuck up when we have opportunities. 

Absolutely. 

 

This is the difference between PL and international/world class standard players though. We have a team of Championship/lower PL players and now that some are getting on, we're lacking the dynamism to overcome the lack of thought. Meanwhile at Man City on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum they have players who are not only highly talented, but make the correct decisions like 99.9% of the time and whom also have the attitude and drive that will see them overcome any errors of judgement.

 

Sadly, it is very difficult to coach decision making though. There are a lot more players who can play the game, than read it. 

[HaydnNUFC]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Absolutely. 

 

This is the difference between PL and international/world class standard players though. We have a team of Championship/lower PL players and now that some are getting on, we're lacking the dynamism to overcome the lack of thought. Meanwhile at Man City on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum they have players who are not only highly talented, but make the correct decisions like 99.9% of the time and whom also have the attitude and drive that will see them overcome any errors of judgement.

 

Sadly, it is very difficult to coach decision making though. There are a lot more players who can play the game, than read it. 

 

Shocking squad management due to the Ashley regime since January 2017 is rearing its head. Just hope we can get the right players in in January as tactically we've improved under Howe. The lack of quality hurts us so much.

[Rafalove]

Don’t agree that Man City don’t have players that are “highly talented”. Like.

 

 

[SchärMix]

Hard to judge anyone having to play Man City, but today pretty much summed him up again since he turned up here. Lightweight and pathetic. 

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

Don’t agree that Man City don’t have players that are “highly talented”. Like.

 

 

Who said that?

[TRon]

What kills our football is players who can't retain the ball under pressure, and he's one of those who doesn't find his man enough. 

[Rafalove]

11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Who said that?

No one I ready that completely wrong 

[joeyt]

He's absolutely bobbins.

[ozzrahog]

4 hours ago, joeyt said:

He's absolutely bobbins.

If only he was that good. But don't say it too loud it gets you banned

 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by ozzrahog

[Away Toon]

Zero end product since he arrived here, but as he runs around a lot and is constantly played out of position (?) people seem to think he's not a problem.

[Consortium of one]

I love his effort but all his effort doesn't translate to much of value 

[Happinesstan]

Saw shades of his early games for us, in Son's performance yesterday.

[Shearergol]

On 19/12/2021 at 23:26, ozzrahog said:

If only he was that good. But don't say it too loud it gets you banned

 

 

 

 

Added to the list of "things that never happen"

[MrRaspberryJam]

He could do with bulking up for starters.

[Thumbheed]

ASM him and someone like Fraser breaking with pace from deep would cause problems for alot of sides. 

 

ASM, him and Fraser trying to play a pass and move possession based game would not. 

 

 

[Fantail Breeze]

1 hour ago, Thumbheed said:

ASM him and someone like Fraser breaking with pace from deep would cause problems for alot of sides. 

 

ASM, him and Fraser trying to play a pass and move possession based game would not. 

 

 

 

Yup. Still think Howe is trying to put square pegs in round holes with his tactics.

 

We either need to sign 6-7 players to fit Howe’s style or he needs to reconsider how the team are set up. 

 

This will never work, imo. Players like Dubravka, Lascelles and Clark are never going to be good or confident on the ball, no matter how much coaching you put in.

 

Even Shelvey is pretty crap on the ball. He can pick a pass but doesn’t know what to do with it if he needs to hold onto it and wait for a pass to become available.

 

We need to be countering teams with the players you have mentioned above. 

[Happinesstan]

2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

We need to be countering teams with the players you have mentioned above. 

Exactly what we've done the last two games.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think it’s a bit much to say Howe is trying to turn us into a possession team right now. 
 

Yeah, we are looking to move into space better and receive the ball, but that’s just better football. Getting the keeper to hoof the ball away is just not viable, whatever your overall game plan is. 
 

Of course we can’t dominate good teams with the players we have, but they must be capable of one or two passes more than they’ve shown.
 

Countering happens in transition when you win the ball back, there will still be times when you’re starting from the back or a static position, and you can’t just lose the ball every time.