ElDiablo Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 State of that decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 f***ing hell, that is not a clear and obvious error. Any offside is clear and obvious. It's not a matter of opinion Needs a change in the offside rule imo rather than that being a VAR issue. If your legs are onside for instance, let it go imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I refuse to accept that he is offside there, its not the right/correct decision as there is absolutely no way of knowing exactly where to position those lines or the exact time the ball is played. There has to be a margin of error allowed and that margin has to allow goals like that. Another reason im glad that Ive packed in my season ticket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 That isn’t offside. It is, it’s just not clear and obvious. What part of his body could he have scored with there? That millimetre if shoulder? If this is what’s going to be ruled out the age of players running in behind is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 That one wasn't clear and obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Weird that not only is the goal disallowed but the wait and the way it’s done brings the oppposition crowd back into it too so it’s a double blow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 We are now talking about the prospect of wearing a lose fitting top and a bit of wind blown up and it appearing to make someone on/offside with VAR decisions like that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Change the rule. It's not VAR's fault, it's the weird creeps making anal decisions off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. There has to be some leeway like. You're taking away the joy of scoring when you have to hold off celebrating just in case your striker's lace came undone and was dangling offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Ruins football VAR. that initial celebration and buzz of a goal has been taken away now as you have to wait and see for VAR. joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. Yeah, I can live with offsides being strictly VARed. It’s frustrating, but it’s objective and fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Agree there needs to be a rule change to reflect the change in technology Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. It's trash. If you have to check it for 30-60 seconds using technology and endless replays, it's not clear enough to get VAR in to the frame. They clearly stated that any situation taken to VAR would be if the ref had make a clear mistake. He didn't here. Awful use of it. Terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Ruins football VAR. that initial celebration and buzz of a goal has been taken away now as you have to wait and see for VAR. joke On the flip side, the home side are now 0-2 and fans up for it a bit more rather than 0-3 and game over. Ultimately to the letter of the law, the decision was correct. It's the offside law which is bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 VAR has quite clearly been brought in for the entertainment value, and not for concerns over getting decision right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. It's trash. If you have to check it for 30-60 seconds using technology and endless replays, it's not clear enough to get VAR in to the frame. They clearly stated that any situation taken to VAR would be if the ref had make a clear mistake. He didn't here. Awful use of it. Terrible. That took one image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 f***ing hell, that is not a clear and obvious error. Any offside is clear and obvious. It's not a matter of opinion Needs a change in the offside rule imo rather than that being a VAR issue. If your legs are onside for instance, let it go imo. Aye, blaming VAR for imposing the literal rules of the game is ridiculous. Change the rule if it isn't working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. It's trash. If you have to check it for 30-60 seconds using technology and endless replays, it's not clear enough to get VAR in to the frame. They clearly stated that any situation taken to VAR would be if the ref had make a clear mistake. He didn't here. Awful use of it. Terrible. An offside is a clear mistake. You are either offside or you aren't, there is no grey area Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. There has to be some leeway like. You're taking away the joy of scoring when you have to hold off celebrating just in case your striker's lace came undone and was dangling offside. Why does there have to be leeway? That just allows the sort of subjective decisions that favour big clubs and home teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 f***ing hell, that is not a clear and obvious error. Any offside is clear and obvious. It's not a matter of opinion I guess that's a thing, and makes sense. Still annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. It's trash. If you have to check it for 30-60 seconds using technology and endless replays, it's not clear enough to get VAR in to the frame. They clearly stated that any situation taken to VAR would be if the ref had make a clear mistake. He didn't here. Awful use of it. Terrible. That took one image. It took 2 minutes to get that image and the lines drawn though. Is that clear an obvious? They had to zoom in at rate where the pictures were blurred and drawn thin lines in order to show it being offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. There has to be some leeway like. You're taking away the joy of scoring when you have to hold off celebrating just in case your striker's lace came undone and was dangling offside. Why does there have to be leeway? That just allows the sort of subjective decisions that favour big clubs and home teams. Once again, correct. If you let the refs make that decision he allows it. Would he allow that seeing the same image if it's Mikael Antonio at the other end? He might do, but there's still going to be that element of 'should I award this against a big club when I can see it's offside?' This makes it black & white and gives no scope for the ref to show 'big club bias' or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 In situations like that they need to adopt the way cricket do it, if the video evidence is as close as that then it stays with the on field decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You're either offside or not. Love it that they are so strict when the technology to be so is there. There has to be some leeway like. You're taking away the joy of scoring when you have to hold off celebrating just in case your striker's lace came undone and was dangling offside. Why does there have to be leeway? That just allows the sort of subjective decisions that favour big clubs and home teams. Once again, correct. If you let the refs make that decision he allows it. Would he allow that seeing the same image if it's Mikael Antonio at the other end? This makes it black & white and gives no scope for the ref to show 'big club bias' or whatever. All fair. Gonna be a lot of VAR going on anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 When does the pass start; I’m assuming it is when a player makes initial contact with the ball, might be talking milliseconds but it could be the difference between Sterling being on or offside there. I can’t recall any debate on how it is decided when to stop the frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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