mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 It's either takeover or Ashley has fucked everything and loses a shit load of money, i'm starting to come to terms with it. thing is they've proven in the past they're able to sign players when it suits them at short notice, i fully expect them to get a coach in that is more capable than mcclaren but less capable than rafa and then throw a load of signings at them bought cheap based on scout reports it'll all just depend where the new guy sits between mcclaren & rafa in terms of ability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 So there are supposedly at least 3 interested parties, BZG Group being one of them. What are the other 2 doing? Mike Ashley supposedly wants £350m. If the 3 interested parties know that have they offered that amount? If yes, then what is happening? If Mike Ashley is moving the goal posts then walk away. The loss of Rafa (plus his coaching team) and Perez should reduce the £350m valuation as relegation is currently much more likely. Also, if a group is struggling to come up with the £350m then they'll really struggle to fund the transfers, new manager and other changes required (the TV money is paid in installments throughout the year). I doubt the takeover will happen purely because of how long it has taken. Most takeovers seem to be done quickly. I was excited after BZG's first announcement when they said it was a done deal. Since then my hope has nosedived. How long does this size of takeover usually take ? And how long has this one been going (that's different to when was the story broken)? I'm sure takeovers do take time. They're just not played out in the media like everything we do is. Not sure but Mike Ashley's takeover of NUFC didn't take long. He got it done really quick (possibly due to lack of due diligence). Did the Man City takeover take a long time? I guess my point is if the buyer has the cash things seem to move quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 This has just been posted ;D ;D https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU/status/1148538017914793984 Fuck off man. They are editing the account as they go.. pure shithouses Don’t fucking post it then. Fuck me. There were several accounts posting takeover is imminent, then this was posted.. its better for it to be seen as a load of shit from the start rather than letting it gain momentum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Nah fuck those idiots and don’t give them the attention they desperately want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Reported that account for pretending to be someone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Nah fuck those idiots and don’t give them the attention they desperately want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The Bin Zayed Group is starting to look more and more dodgy to me to be honest, even if they do complete the take over it dosn't seem like they are the Man City type owners, not that we were expecting that but the fact that they couldn't complete the take over in time before Rafa leaves and Ashley starts selling our best players say a lot. And one thing this summer really showed is how fucking clueless the local journos are. Even if the next owners are shit - Ashley level shit - I don't care. I can't imagine they'll be in control for 12 fucking years, so if we need new shit owners to get rid of current shit owners, then we can try new tactics on the new ones, so be it. At least we're moving forwards through owners towards a day when perhaps we have a half decent one. They could be even more inept than Ashley, but I can't imagine anyone being more stubborn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The Bin Zayed Group is starting to look more and more dodgy to me to be honest, even if they do complete the take over it dosn't seem like they are the Man City type owners, not that we were expecting that but the fact that they couldn't complete the take over in time before Rafa leaves and Ashley starts selling our best players say a lot. And one thing this summer really showed is how fucking clueless the local journos are. Even if the next owners are shit - Ashley level shit - I don't care. I can't imagine they'll be in control for 12 fucking years, so if we need new shit owners to get rid of current shit owners, then we can try new tactics on the new ones, so be it. At least we're moving forwards through owners towards a day when perhaps we have a half decent one. They could be even more inept than Ashley, but I can't imagine anyone being more stubborn. All they'd have to do is maximise our commercial revenue and actually invest the money we generate, and we'd be 100% better off than we are now. Nobody is asking for them to plough hundreds of millions into the playing staff, just spend what we earn and allow us to compete. I imagine most of us would be thrilled at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The Bin Zayed Group is starting to look more and more dodgy to me to be honest, even if they do complete the take over it dosn't seem like they are the Man City type owners, not that we were expecting that but the fact that they couldn't complete the take over in time before Rafa leaves and Ashley starts selling our best players say a lot. And one thing this summer really showed is how fucking clueless the local journos are. Even if the next owners are shit - Ashley level shit - I don't care. I can't imagine they'll be in control for 12 fucking years, so if we need new shit owners to get rid of current shit owners, then we can try new tactics on the new ones, so be it. At least we're moving forwards through owners towards a day when perhaps we have a half decent one. They could be even more inept than Ashley, but I can't imagine anyone being more stubborn. All they'd have to do is maximise our commercial revenue and actually invest the money we generate, and we'd be 100% better off than we are now. Nobody is asking for them to plow hundreds of millions into the playing staff, just spend what we earn and allow us to compete. I imagine most of us would be thrilled at that. We would be thrilled. The sad thing is that should just be the norm for any football club and not a big deal. For us it would be a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Has anyone got that before/during Ashley chart that shows the decline of the club? Was posted on the forum not too long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 This has just been posted ;D ;D https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU/status/1148538017914793984 What did it say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 This has just been posted ;D ;D https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU/status/1148538017914793984 What did it say? Take a look at Fake Sheikh (@BinZayedEU): https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU?s=09 First tweet posted by this bellend. Account was claiming to be a Bin Zayed Group European account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 This has just been posted ;D ;D https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU/status/1148538017914793984 What did it say? Take a look at Fake Sheikh (@BinZayedEU): https://twitter.com/BinZayedEU?s=09 First tweet posted by this bellend. Account was claiming to be a Bin Zayed Group European account. Looks like it may have been deleted, it said: "As part of our ongoing efforts towards expansion in the European Market. HH Sheikh Khaled Bin Zayed Al Nehayan has completed the formal takeover of Newcastle United FC in the English Premier league on behalf of the Bin Zayed Group. A full statement will follow #nufc #BZG #Dubai" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 If MA doesn't sell this summer (and i thought he'd get max value for the club with Rafa at the helm) then I don't see how he'll EVER get 350m at minimum again unless he 1) renovates the stadium completely 2) invests 50-100m in the squad and 3) builds new training facility. At this rate his team is worse in quality than last year, his facilities are unchanged, and he has no world class manager to prop any of this up. Relegation will NOT mean he sells - it's happened twice and he's thrown a wedge of money each time to get back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Honestly think we can put any hope of a takeover to bed now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Honestly think we can put any hope of a takeover to bed now If he Gives fat head the gig, then it looks like its an absolute non starter. That would be not just a body blow, bot a combo of knockout proportions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I hope they're just making preparations in case the takeover doesn't go through. That's seriously wishful thinking though. I think the minute they appoint anyone who isn't high calibre we have to assume the takeover is off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs Interesting list in terms of net worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 If MA doesn't sell this summer (and i thought he'd get max value for the club with Rafa at the helm) then I don't see how he'll EVER get 350m at minimum again unless he 1) renovates the stadium completely 2) invests 50-100m in the squad and 3) builds new training facility. At this rate his team is worse in quality than last year, his facilities are unchanged, and he has no world class manager to prop any of this up. Relegation will NOT mean he sells - it's happened twice and he's thrown a wedge of money each time to get back up. That's been my theory/hope since we were promoted last time round. He will never get more money for selling the club. Its all down hill from here on in as far as that's concerned and if it goes down hill enough it will mean he takes less and less out and eventually there'll be nothing to take out. The degeneration as already begun. Yet he's not going to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Ashley is in Monaco apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Bruce deal done, ashley's on holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Ashley is in Monaco apparently Flight rader info gain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I can believe that mind. Shit's hitting the fan and work to be done over here, fatty hides until it all blows over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Ashley is in Monaco apparently Flight rader info gain? Dunno mate just saw it said a few times on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 He'll be hitting the casinos with the Perez wedge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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