Dokko Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Well, the only bit of the Woman's WC i've watched saw England have a goal ruled offside, a penalty miss, a red card and go out in the semi's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This match syncs up perfectly with my footballing world view. Blame the mackem and the VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This match syncs up perfectly with my footballing world view. Blame the mackem and the VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Looks like Phil needs tips from Rafa not the other way around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Think Neville should move up to the u21's now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. You're comparing chalk and cheese anyway. Not really? Offside law was used correctly. Can’t just ignore it if it’s ‘marginal’ the same way you couldn’t just give a goal if the vast majority of the ball was in. Sometimes these incidents can be both onside and offside when the limbs of several players are moving at once, depending on which frame is chosen. It really is total nonsense. I know you've stuck your flag passionately in the VAR camp but I firmly believe at this point anyone who says that the system as it stands is a benefit and is improving football as a spectacle is being deliberately dishonest out of stubbornness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. I know but I'm saying I'm of the opinion that it should be. I think the game would be better for it. I don't want every single decision to be absolutely perfect, especially if it takes several minutes and 50 replays to determine whether something was or wasn't. Goal-line technology - yes. Clear and obvious errors - yes. Really subjective/too close to call decisions - hell no. Think I said before, now that we’ve got the technology for offsides, the law should just change to there has to be clear daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Phil Neville You are such a hater It's ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 U! S! A! ... U! S! A! ... V! S! A! ... V! A! A! ... V! A! R! ... V! A! R! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Good game lads, you've got an incredible team no doubt. Proud of our ladies out there today. Job is not finished just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Looks like Phil needs tips from Rafa not the other way around I don't care if this is a bite, or whatever, but seriously, stop this. Its utterly annoying and repetitive, and quite frankly ruining the Football section of the site. I get banter, but this isnt that. This is just being an asshole repeating whatever point your trying to make. We should be talking about what a great game of football that was, and an advert to the womens game, not your patter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Fair play to England and the state's. Really close. The state's begrudgingly have the extra class and experience. From watching the last world cup this is a different England team. Our defence is our worst enemy. If we can improve there in the next cycle we can beat anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I firmly believe at this point anyone who says that the system as it stands is a benefit and is improving football as a spectacle is being deliberately dishonest out of stubbornness. Absolutely. It's fucking ruinous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Think Neville should move up to the u21's now Nah Rafa should give him a job putting his cones out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 England we're so good. Nothing to be down about after that. Just a shame about the penalty miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. I know but I'm saying I'm of the opinion that it should be. I think the game would be better for it. I don't want every single decision to be absolutely perfect, especially if it takes several minutes and 50 replays to determine whether something was or wasn't. Goal-line technology - yes. Clear and obvious errors - yes. Really subjective/too close to call decisions - hell no. Think I said before, now that we’ve got the technology for offsides, the law should just change to there has to be clear daylight. "Daylight" is far more subjective than the current rule. What number of millimetres would you define as daylight now that we are measuring offside to that standard? Congratulations to the US, I hope Netherlands defeats them in the Final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Looks like Phil needs tips from Rafa not the other way around I don't care if this is a bite, or whatever, but seriously, stop this. Its utterly annoying and repetitive, and quite frankly ruining the Football section of the site. I get banter, but this isnt that. This is just being an asshole repeating whatever point your trying to make. We should be talking about what a great game of football that was, and an advert to the womens game, not your patter. You're encouraging him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Think Neville should move up to the u21's now Danny Mills said he should be given a chance as Newcastle manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. You're comparing chalk and cheese anyway. Not really? Offside law was used correctly. Can’t just ignore it if it’s ‘marginal’ the same way you couldn’t just give a goal if the vast majority of the ball was in. Sometimes these incidents can be both onside and offside when the limbs of several players are moving at once, depending on which frame is chosen. It really is total nonsense. I know you've stuck your flag passionately in the VAR camp but I firmly believe at this point anyone who says that the system as it stands is a benefit and is improving football as a spectacle is being deliberately dishonest out of stubbornness. Aye, both decitions today nobody would complain about if they weren’t changed through VAR. The also both (as you say) showed that at that level it’s probably not 100%. The penalty especially the ref was visibly baffled as to what to give Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Phil Neville You are such a hater It's ridiculous. Not remember him slagging Rafa off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 tuned in, turned it off after 5 minutes. Fuck that brass band shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. You're comparing chalk and cheese anyway. Not really? Offside law was used correctly. Can’t just ignore it if it’s ‘marginal’ the same way you couldn’t just give a goal if the vast majority of the ball was in. Sometimes these incidents can be both onside and offside when the limbs of several players are moving at once, depending on which frame is chosen. It really is total nonsense. I know you've stuck your flag passionately in the VAR camp but I firmly believe at this point anyone who says that the system as it stands is a benefit and is improving football as a spectacle is being deliberately dishonest out of stubbornness. Aye, both decitions today nobody would complain about if they weren’t changed through VAR. The also both (as you say) showed that at that level it’s probably not 100%. The penalty especially the ref was visibly baffled as to what to give If the pen doesn’t get awarded then England complain, had the offside not been given then USA would rightfully been aggrieved. The technology is there to give the correct decisions and they got it right both times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 tuned in, turned it off after 5 minutes. Fuck that brass band shite. Easy. There's bloody saxophones in that lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Isn't VAR supposed to be for "clear and obvious" decisions? That was so marginal it was unreal. This offsides business is absolutely wank. No advantage gained whatsoever. If it’s offside, it’s offside, should there be an advantage? Would be like goal line technology just deciding it’s a goal if 90% of the ball crosses the line. The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Offside should be the same. That’s not the law though. You're comparing chalk and cheese anyway. Not really? Offside law was used correctly. Can’t just ignore it if it’s ‘marginal’ the same way you couldn’t just give a goal if the vast majority of the ball was in. Sometimes these incidents can be both onside and offside when the limbs of several players are moving at once, depending on which frame is chosen. It really is total nonsense. I know you've stuck your flag passionately in the VAR camp but I firmly believe at this point anyone who says that the system as it stands is a benefit and is improving football as a spectacle is being deliberately dishonest out of stubbornness. Aye, both decitions today nobody would complain about if they weren’t changed through VAR. The also both (as you say) showed that at that level it’s probably not 100%. The penalty especially the ref was visibly baffled as to what to give If the pen doesn’t get awarded then England complain, had the offside not been given then USA would rightfully been aggrieved. The technology is there to give the correct decisions and they got it right both times. Nobody could realistically complain about either of those decisions man, howay. The referee was literally scratching her head with the penalty even after watching it dozens of times And Wullie’s point is right. It’s impossible to get it correct to the millimeter with current tech, especially in an acceptable timeframe. Finding the exact moment the ball leaves the foot and the exact moment the offensive player passes the defender would require far better cameras than the ones they’re using, as well as high FPS monitors and more angles. VAR will still be more accurate than not but both decitions today showed how tight it can get. Regardless of any of this the main point is that this in no way made the game any more entertaining. The exact opposite tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The fewm on Twitter about Alex Morgan's celebration is hilarious. Especially people saying it's racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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