Rafalove Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Wor flags doing a Joelinton display Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: What position is he? Has he created a role of his own? A sort of defensive number 10? Eddie called him an eight, which is box-to-box for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 It's the freedom Howe has given him imo, if you look at his heatmap vs Tottenham (Bruce's last game) he was basically restricted to the far left of the pitch. Next game he started against Brentford he was everywhere. I haven't seen a great deal of him personally due to sheer apathy but if the rest of his time here he's been instructed to rigidly maintain a position where he's essentially waiting for one of our players to pick him out then it explains a lot. His best attribute the past couple of months has been his ability to essentially be a magnet to the ball, he's not man marking a specific player, or waiting about to recieve it from our players, he's mainly hovering about the centre left of the pitch but seems to have a license to pop up anywhere in midfield to battle for it. Would be over the moon for him if he makes it to Qatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: It's the freedom Howe has given him imo, if you look at his heatmap vs Tottenham (Bruce's last game) he was basically restricted to the far left of the pitch. Next game he started against Brentford he was everywhere. I haven't seen a great deal of him personally due to sheer apathy but if the rest of his time here he's been instructed to rigidly maintain a position where he's essentially waiting for one of our players to pick him out then it explains a lot. His best attribute the past couple of months has been his ability to essentially be a magnet to the ball, he's not man marking a specific player, or waiting about to recieve it from our players, he's mainly hovering about the centre left of the pitch but seems to have a license to pop up anywhere in midfield to battle for it. Would be over the moon for him if he makes it to Qatar. We've been saying for two years 'he's not a striker, please stop sticking him up front by himself and lumping long balls at him'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: What position is he? Has he created a role of his own? A sort of defensive number 10? Could probably play anywhere across midfield or behind the striker depending on the system and opponent imo. I would just forget whatever happened under Bruce. If there's an area on the pitch where he's likely to be involved in 50/50s he'll probably shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Raconteur said: Eddie called him an eight, which is box-to-box for me Whatever it is. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Mad how he's now easily first name on the teamsheet. What a turnaround Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Mad how he's now easily first name on the teamsheet. What a turnaround Somewhere else in the multiverse, another set of Toon fans are wondering what's happened to their superstar Brazilian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 If you just saw him last night and never before you’d say he’s worth more than what we paid for him. He won the ball standing up, on the deck, in the air, held up play, drove forward intelligently and with power and pace, played brilliant one-twos. He was sensational and it almost looked completely effortless too like he’s been doing it his entire career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 13 hours ago, geordie_b said: However good he has been I still dont know if I see a place for him in the team if we make even just a handful of signings in the right positions Weird comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Raconteur said: Somewhere else in the multiverse, another set of Toon fans are wondering what's happened to their superstar Brazilian Aye, but they are also top of the league, been sold by PIF to Mike Ashley, and are about to sack Howe for Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Happy he's proved me wrong. Hope I'm way off about going down too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Is there a heat map for yesterday’s game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, sh74 said: Is there a heat map for yesterday’s game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 What about average position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, NWMag said: Looks like he was left of a midfield three? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Reckon he could put in a shift at left back too tbh. He's just not a fucking striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, NWMag said: Compared to Tottenham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Highlights package: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Highlights package: been waiting for one of these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, tgarve said: Weird comment The point being that if we bring in a quality left back and defensive midfielder (which we are all hoping for in this window) I’m not sure if there is a place or need for him in the team. He isn’t going to be played as a left winger and he isn’t creative enough to be a central midfielder once the defensive frailties have been addressed. It’s a tricky one but he is currently making a stronger claim for a starting place than Willock. However do Willocks abilities start to show more once he isn’t asked to defend as much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, geordie_b said: The point being that if we bring in a quality left back and defensive midfielder (which we are all hoping for in this window) I’m not sure if there is a place or need for him in the team. He isn’t going to be played as a left winger and he isn’t creative enough to be a central midfielder once the defensive frailties have been addressed. It’s a tricky one but he is currently making a stronger claim for a starting place than Willock. However do Willocks abilities start to show more once he isn’t asked to defend as much? I think there is a place for a player who combines the best of what Tiote and Sissoko did for us. Bigger question is if his current form is a flash in the pan or if he's finally found his true position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 If this is more or less how he will play going forward, then he’s our box to box destroyer and ball carrier we’ve desperately needed. Put him next to a pure defensive holder (Kamara) and another 8 with more creative abilities and you’ve got a formidable trio. This likely brings the best out of Willock too who will be glancing into the box with late runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Unbelievable said: I think there is a place for a player who combines the best of what Tiote and Sissoko did for us. Bigger question is if his current form is a flash in the pan or if he's finally found his true position. I feel like because it’s been now 4/5 games he’s done this it isn’t a flash in the pan, Hes playing under a better manager who is utilising his skill package better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Kanji said: If you just saw him last night and never before you’d say he’s worth more than what we paid for him. He won the ball standing up, on the deck, in the air, held up play, drove forward intelligently and with power and pace, played brilliant one-twos. He was sensational and it almost looked completely effortless too like he’s been doing it his entire career. I didn't want to get carried away after half a dozen good performances in midfield, after all central midfield is a specialist position, but tbh, he seems to have every attribute you could want in that position. Strength, good first touch, stamina, pace and positional awareness. I'm starting to think Howe is right, he's only going to get better. I always thought he was technically a decent footballer, but fair play to Eddie for recognising he could be such an asset in the middle. I thought Longstaff's fulsome praise of his abilities was quite revealing, the players clearly love playing alongside the big man. I really think he can turn into a very good midfielder for us. He looks fucking dominant at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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