toon25 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The fans are daft cunts mostly. If they think someone else is going to come in and start scoring, they haven't been watching the games. Spot on. No point in blaming young players like this guy and Longstaff for underperforming when they’re being coached by absolute fucking morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The fans are daft c***s mostly. If they think someone else is going to come in and start scoring, they haven't been watching the games. Spot on. No point in blaming young players like this guy and Longstaff for underperforming when they’re being coached by absolute f***ing morons. All of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 i mean the kid almost certainly isn't ever going to cut it as a PL number nine and he bears a lot of responsibility for not being able to kick a ball properly in front of goal, but the coaching and management at the club have made things 100% worse imo, possibly to the point of it being irreparable already which is diabolical in 6 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 No way we are buying him for 35M, it will actually be disappointing if we do because he's really not worth that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I wonder what is attracting Joelinton to NUFC? I highly doubt he has ever heard of Steve Bruce. Could it be he'll get higher wages at NUFC than his current club and he's been told by NUFC that if he does well he'll be sold (at a profit) to a more ambitious club? Thought so. It's a weird one - he's been persistently linked with the Toon and no one else for two windows now. There's probably something to the agent relationship angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Here's one thing I'm certain of ... he'll go on to much better in his career than this club ever will under MA. So, for those that have been doing so, have your fill laying into him all you want. The joke is on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I personally hope things turn around for him for the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 suppose the one thing you have to say is he's not pulled an injury, which would have been piss easy to do in the current climate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Here's one thing I'm certain of ... he'll go on to much better in his career than this club ever will under MA. So, for those that have been doing so, have your fill laying into him all you want. The joke is on you. I mean, it’s possible for them both to be shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. Agree with this. Whilst the circumstances aren't the best, he hasn't shown a semblance of real actual ability in 6 months. I'm convinced we've paid £15 million max for him, there's just no reasoning behind him being worth any more than that. We also don't pay more than that. Even at that price, he's been a massive disappointment so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Found myself watching Rondon's highlights from last year to remind myself what a real number 9 looks like. His hold up play was exceptional. Joelinton is a shadow of the player in every single department. I don't even think he could outpace Rondon ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He’s not a target man at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. Agree with this. Whilst the circumstances aren't the best, he hasn't shown a semblance of real actual ability in 6 months. I'm convinced we've paid £15 million max for him, there's just no reasoning behind him being worth any more than that. We also don't pay more than that. Even at that price, he's been a massive disappointment so far. Hoffenheim have said it’s the most they’ve received for a player so the minimum we’ve paid is around £30m. I think the fees being bandied about are true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. I disagree somewhat. He looks like he has good feet to me, you see glimpses of it during a match with a deft touch or a flick, but more often he is just physically outmuscled. He looks like a typical foreign player who enjoyed extra time on the ball on the continent, but hasn't coped with the speed of the English game. There was plenty of similar comments about Perez for the last few years, now we are thinking £30m was a bad deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I think he suffers from the same problem as Riviere in that he has absolutely no power in his shots, he can't strike a ball hard or fast enough to have the ability to score goals at the top level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He's basically Rivierre II. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 His top 5 goals on Youtube are basically scuff shots with him falling over and a header that a traffic cone could score because the cross was that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. Agree with this. Whilst the circumstances aren't the best, he hasn't shown a semblance of real actual ability in 6 months. I'm convinced we've paid £15 million max for him, there's just no reasoning behind him being worth any more than that. We also don't pay more than that. Even at that price, he's been a massive disappointment so far. Hoffenheim have said it’s the most they’ve received for a player so the minimum we’ve paid is around £30m. I think the fees being bandied about are true. Which would make the whole deal even stranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 His top 5 goals on Youtube are basically scuff shots with him falling over and a header that a traffic cone could score because the cross was that good I did say this a while ago but yeah, they're awful for a top 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve got a certain amount of sympathy for him, he’s been parachuted into an absolute shitstorm, new country, new league, new culture, new language and he’s playing for and being coached by utter fuckwits. It must be even worse with a £40m price tag dangling from his neck but he’s looked awful. I feel for him but there’s got to be a limit. There’s only so long the difficulties can be used to excuse him and his dreadful play. I like him and hope he comes good but he’s looked absolute dogshit whenever he’s had the ball at his feet or he’s had a chance in the box. I disagree somewhat. He looks like he has good feet to me, you see glimpses of it during a match with a deft touch or a flick, but more often he is just physically outmuscled. He looks like a typical foreign player who enjoyed extra time on the ball on the continent, but hasn't coped with the speed of the English game. There was plenty of similar comments about Perez for the last few years, now we are thinking £30m was a bad deal. In a wide role where he’s not with his back to goal and a 6’3 centre-back up his backside he might stand a chance. It’s very similar to the Tomasson situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 There’s no sugar coating it anymore. Has to be dropped. His attitude is all wrong. I think Ashley thought or was led to believe he was signing a Richarlison type player who’s value would sky rocket even in a poor side. Maybe there’s a player in there somewhere but we’ll not see it. Rafa would have dropped him already. But Bruce will have to eventually, and this might be the first strain between him and the board as am sure he’s been told to pick him. I’d say the deal was for 40m depending on hitting many targets which haven’t happened so it’ll be about 20-25m fee that’s been spent. Which is still mental given how bad he’s been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Can't see where he fits in. No good as the lone striker, no good playing off the striker or out wide because he doesn't have any pace or tight control. He reminds me of Ameobi, no power in his shots despite the physique and no real determination in what he's doing. a bit like when Shola used to fuck up a move and sit on his arse laughing about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Can't see where he fits in. No good as the lone striker, no good playing off the striker or out wide because he doesn't have any pace or tight control. He reminds me of Ameobi, no power in his shots despite the physique and no real determination in what he's doing. a bit like when Shola used to fuck up a move and sit on his arse laughing about it Shola was 5 times the player than this lad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Shola wouldn’t last 5 minutes in this team like. His flaws would be even more ridiculously exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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