Joelinton

[Smal]

thought he was fine. 

[Holloway]

15 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I thought Tonali didn’t exactly pull up trees tbf - he didn’t look at the level either.  Doesn’t mean he isn’t, but that wasn’t a great showing. 

yep, he's put in a couple of average performances of late that somehow go unrecognised here, someone was calling him a legend first half that raised a titter here

[wyn davies]

12 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

I hate to say it cos I love Joelinton but is his best days behind him.

Thought the same, maybe time for either looking at moving on or rotate more often as opposed to first choice.

 

[duo]

42 minutes ago, Smal said:

thought he was fine. 

Yeah fine sums him up - not close to his best though

[gbandit]

I think tonight is a perfect example of his limitations, a quality player on the ball would have released a winger in behind on about three occasions. Instead, Jow overhit the ball every time. It’s just not his game and he will be important for us this season but I’m reaching the point where I prefer a player who offers less defensively than Jow but more offensively, ie Ramsey

[duo]

2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I think tonight is a perfect example of his limitations, a quality player on the ball would have released a winger in behind on about three occasions. Instead, Jow overhit the ball every time. It’s just not his game and he will be important for us this season but I’m reaching the point where I prefer a player who offers less defensively than Jow but more offensively, ie Ramsey

Today was the perfect game for Ramsey - honestly our luck stinks

 

 

Edited September 18, 2025 by duo

[Keggy_Keagal]

Whenever we get beat and Bruno or Joelinton haven't been 9 or 10/10 out comes the criticism. They both did fine. Tonali seems to almost never be criticised and he might well have closed down Rashford quicker for his second. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I thought he had a good game and we got worse when he went off

[kenlau88210]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I thought he had a good game and we got worse when he went off

 

Mixed performance. Contributed greatly doing the dirty work but just lacking technical ability especially with his passing

[El Prontonise]

I don't think he's 100% fit based on this game and the wolves game.

[Sibierski]

Joelinton biggest issue for me was in first half we popped the ball through midfield and it ended with Joelinton as their defence pressed high on half way line, Gordon / Barnes / Elanga all in stance ready to run through and Joelinton just fucked it. Had the space and he killed the attack. 
 

Stuff that won’t come up on no data thing, but a player with better quality on ball and that vision, plays a ball into 30 yards of space and we potentially have a very high xg chance.

[Kimbo]

Ramsey isn’t the answer either IMO. We need a midfield goalscorer that can also pick a pass, as well as being athletic enough to play in a Howe team. Midfield needs to be the next area we go big on and get someone that’s at the level of Tonali and Bruno.

 

That said, Ramsey wasn’t exactly cheap.

[r0cafella]

11 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

Ramsey isn’t the answer either IMO. We need a midfield goalscorer that can also pick a pass, as well as being athletic enough to play in a Howe team. Midfield needs to be the next area we go big on and get someone that’s at the level of Tonali and Bruno.

 

That said, Ramsey wasn’t exactly cheap.

Reckon Ramsey is the Willock replacement. We didn't have funds to go big Isak money came too late and we were already scrambling. 

[PauloGeordio]

14 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

Ramsey isn’t the answer either IMO. We need a midfield goalscorer that can also pick a pass, as well as being athletic enough to play in a Howe team. Midfield needs to be the next area we go big on and get someone that’s at the level of Tonali and Bruno.

 

That said, Ramsey wasn’t exactly cheap.

Éderson.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

There’s no one answer but Ramsey is a very dynamic and dangerous player and likes to play between those lines where we currently don’t really have anyone. 
 

FWIW I think Willock has been better the last couple of appearances. 

[Nucasol]

14 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Éderson.

I do think we’re one more major Joelinton injury away from him being sent to Old Yeller’s Saudi Farm. If Atalanta are out the CL and not tearing up trees in Serie A, I’d be looking to buy and transition this lad in for the rest of the season.

[Lotus]

Think we’ve missed the boat on Ederson. Too many clubs got their eye on him. We need to get the next iteration.

[Kimbo]

6 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Think we’ve missed the boat on Ederson. Too many clubs got their eye on him. We need to get the next iteration.

I think that’s Andrey Santos.

[Lotus]

1 minute ago, Kimbo said:

I think that’s Andrey Santos.

I imagine Chelsea will want overpaying to let him go.

[KDT]

Ederson isn’t going to help with goals or assists though. Given than neither Bruno or Tonali are particularly prolific with those either it’s probably a more attacking option that they would look at if Joelinton did leave. 

[Optimistic Nut]

2 minutes ago, KDT said:

Ederson isn’t going to help with goals or assists though. Given than neither Bruno or Tonali are particularly prolific with those either it’s probably a more attacking option that they would look at if Joelinton did leave. 

 

Any many CMs prolific these days? I think hoping for 5-7 league goals from each of the CMs is a fair target, given the wingers should be getting about 10 each. Merino probably skews the numbers last season by playing up front a bit, but can't think of many Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal midfielders with many more than 7-8?

[Andy84]

1 hour ago, Kimbo said:

Ramsey isn’t the answer either IMO. We need a midfield goalscorer that can also pick a pass, as well as being athletic enough to play in a Howe team. Midfield needs to be the next area we go big on and get someone that’s at the level of Tonali and Bruno.

 

That said, Ramsey wasn’t exactly cheap.

£40 million is the bog standard price for a PL midfielder, might even be on the low side.  We need to look at the continent 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2025 by Andy84

[KDT]

7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Any many CMs prolific these days? I think hoping for 5-7 league goals from each of the CMs is a fair target, given the wingers should be getting about 10 each. Merino probably skews the numbers last season by playing up front a bit, but can't think of many Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal midfielders with many more than 7-8?

Prolific was probably the wrong word. I think they’ve realised that they need someone who’s likely to provide goals and assist (basically a more attacking option) like Ramsey. It’s too reliant on the wide players & also probably why they’ve brought in Woltemade as well given his link up ability with the midfield.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2025 by KDT

[Kimbo]

51 minutes ago, Lotus said:

I imagine Chelsea will want overpaying to let him go.

And all the buyback and sell on clauses.

[JT24]

10 hours ago, gbandit said:

I think tonight is a perfect example of his limitations, a quality player on the ball would have released a winger in behind on about three occasions. Instead, Jow overhit the ball every time. It’s just not his game and he will be important for us this season but I’m reaching the point where I prefer a player who offers less defensively than Jow but more offensively, ie Ramsey

Kenneth Taylor wins that game for us.