PauloGeordio Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Elliottman said: Imagine we'll forget about him fairly quickly when Barnes starts banging them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 The only player in the current squad where the atmosphere in the ground tangibly changes when he gets the ball. I get the frustrations and see both sides of the argument, but personally I'll be absolutely gutted to see him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDT said: All these other ‘mercurial’ talents that people go on about us having in recent years, Robert, Ben Arfa, Ginola, Asprilla all had 1 thing that ASM doesn’t and that’s actual output. Consistent output at that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 He’ll always be a folk hero among fans, gave us so much when we were proper shit especially under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The idea that ASM plays anything like this is pure fiction imo like. I don't know how you can say that tbh, fine if you think I'm exaggerating, but to say he doesn't play anything like that...well I don't know what it is you're watching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ameritoon said: Definitely sad, love watching him and we have no one else on the team who offers similar. If this allows us to get someone similar on the right + Barnes I'll be happy, though. Same here. If it’s just Barnes though…it’ll feel a bit meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Didnt ASM have one of the highest expected assists per minutes played this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, PRL said: The only player in the current squad where the atmosphere in the ground tangibly changes when he gets the ball. I get the frustrations and see both sides of the argument, but personally I'll be absolutely gutted to see him go. Me too, but if needs must. For Eddie the romance is in the results. He’s putting together a squad to build on last year. Champions fucking League marra! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, PRL said: The only player in the current squad where the atmosphere in the ground tangibly changes when he gets the ball. I get the frustrations and see both sides of the argument, but personally I'll be absolutely gutted to see him go. Apart from Bruno, Isak & Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just doesn't feel like he's ever going to fit in Howe's system/squad/team. I'd love for us to be able to entertain such a talent, and I'm scared that Howe may regret being so rigid, but I'm not going to second guess the management right now, and it's apparent ASM isn't a priority for us. Would be nice if he went somewhere less shit so I can see him merk folk, but I doubt I'll be watching much Saudiball this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Going to be fun and games when he rejects the Saudi advances again. Hope this happens quick and avoids drama and antics from the ASM camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Displayname said: Didnt ASM have one of the highest expected assists per minutes played this season? Yep. Should have far more assists last season than he does; Liverpool (H), Man Utd (H) and Chelsea (A) he created chances that should've been taken by the likes of Willock and Almirón. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Displayname said: Didnt ASM have one of the highest expected assists per minutes played this season? Everyone knows he a good player. But doesn’t /can’t play the amount of minutes we need him to. The stats per minute are pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, KDT said: All these other ‘mercurial’ talents that people go on about us having in recent years, Robert, Ben Arfa, Ginola, Asprilla all had 1 thing that ASM doesn’t and that’s actual output. Ironically all players who are only seen as having actual output in hindsight. At the time they were playing they had the very same 'no end product' criticisms thrown at them that ASM's getting now. As keeps getting mentioned, last season ASM was in the top 4 centile for assists per 90. That's actual output. He's in the top 4 centile for expected assists, that should be actual output if the players he's put it on a plate for could finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 “Expected assists”. Modern football needs nuking from orbit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, SEMTEX said: Just doesn't feel like he's ever going to fit in Howe's system/squad/team. I'd love for us to be able to entertain such a talent, and I'm scared that Howe may regret being so rigid, but I'm not going to second guess the management right now, and it's apparent ASM isn't a priority for us. Would be nice if he went somewhere less shit so I can see him merk folk, but I doubt I'll be watching much Saudiball this year. I’d say it is Eddie Howe’s discipline and rigidity that has got us to where we are now. More tinkering and our engine purrs more efficiently. I want to see what his vision of the best us is, with whomever he chooses that to be with. Man’s a miracle worker. His stats don’t contradict this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Manxst said: Everyone knows he a good player. But doesn’t /can’t play the amount of minutes we need him to. The stats per minute are pointless. They sure arent pointless when people are saying that he doesnt have any output. I think the only valid criticism of him is his injury record and that he maybe doesnt fit Howes playstyle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, christ said: “Expected assists”. Modern football needs nuking from orbit. Yes, but over 'expected assists'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, PauloGeordio said: I’d say it is Eddie Howe’s discipline and rigidity that has got us to where we are now. More tinkering and our engine purrs more efficiently. I want to see what his vision of the best us is, with whomever he chooses that to be with. Man’s a miracle worker. His stats don’t contradict this! Absolutely, and as I say, I'm not second guessing that right now, but football is dynamic. Systems/teams/managers get found out and need to adjust/evolve. I would like us to have a squad that allows us to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, toontownman said: Going to be fun and games when he rejects the Saudi advances again. Hope this happens quick and avoids drama and antics from the ASM camp. He's looking for a new contract on higher wages from us. Where else apart from Saudi do you think he's likely to get it? I don't think we'll be offering a significant rise given Howe is after a player who'll fit his plans better, and with only two years left on his contract, we can't really afford to turn our noses up at £40-50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Yorkie said: Yes, but over 'expected assists'? I was fine with my club being used for sports washing but apparently this is what has pushed me over the edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, SEMTEX said: Absolutely, and as I say, I'm not second guessing that right now, but football is dynamic. Systems/teams/managers get found out and need to adjust/evolve. I would like us to have a squad that allows us to do that. He’s working on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Fair play pizza Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 It looks like to move forward with our targets we have to sell, there isn’t some other lovely alternative. The only player worth any money who is in the saleable bracket for decent money is St Max. Beyond that you’re looking at Bruno, Botman, Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjk007 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Will always appreciate his efforts in the darker days, the one shining light. I feel its a good time to move him on especially if its close to the 40m mark. Barnes will be brilliant for us especially under Howe and will fit the system with our other creative players. Edited July 18, 2023 by adamjk007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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