Allan Saint-Maximin (now playing for Fenerbahce, on loan from Al-Ahli)

[Wullie]

I don't see his lack of end product at all. There was a video knocking around a few months ago of the chances ASM had put on a plate this season that had been missed and it really was ridiculous. He's not clinical enough in front of goal but I think anyone arguing with his chance creation is being so disingenuous. I think he's part of our best XI personally.

 

His injury record is the only big thing that's a problem for me, he is prone and I don't think he's ever been keen on playing when he doesn't think he's 100%, he's not a fan of running an injury off.

[Erikse]

xMinutes: 1000 per season

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Wullie said:

I don't see his lack of end product at all. There was a video knocking around a few months ago of the chances ASM had put on a plate this season that had been missed and it really was ridiculous. He's not clinical enough in front of goal but I think anyone arguing with his chance creation is being so disingenuous. I think he's part of our best XI personally.

 

His injury record is the only big thing that's a problem for me, he is prone and I don't think he's ever been keen on playing when he doesn't think he's 100%, he's not a fan of running an injury off.

It's ridiculous how often no end product is brought up and is then shown to be wrong like. It must happen at least once a fortnight on here.

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Kid Icarus

[mighty__mag]

20 minutes ago, LV said:

Once we know the actual fee I’d be interested to see a poll on who thinks selling him is a good idea or not 

 

It's a fucking terrible idea, even more so for next to bugger all, €25 I've read, I'd sooner keep him and take Barnes on loan with a fee agreed when the loan ends.

 

I've not seen much to indicate clubs are exactly queuing up to sign Barnes, seems we're the main suitors or West Ham, wouldn't hurt to take him on loan first, unless Leicester are only interested in selling, they'll be quids in with the sale of Maddison and Barnes. 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by mighty__mag

[Beren]

3 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said:

 

I’d agree with what you say about him apart from the Barnes stuff. 

 

Watching him I don’t think he’s ever really fitted into what Howe wants although he’s tried. They obviously like and expect each other but I can’t see him fitting into what Howe wants, nothing to do with head up etc just he’s not a Howe type player.

 

 

 

Fair enough. 

 

I'm not sure I agree on the "Howe player" part.

 

I think to be a team competing for silverware you need to have more than one string to your bow - and I am not seeing a lot of pace and creativity outside of ASM in the squad. Isak to an extent, but I don't personally want him out on the left wing. There will be more games where we need to be solid and counter in the CL especially. I also don't think he's useless against teams who sit back, as he occupies a lot of attention. 

 

I hope for the best, but I'd be disappointed to see him leave the club. Flair players at this club always seem to get a rough ride when they're playing, then are lionized in arrears.  It's as though they are penalised for showing excellence but not being able to unflinchingly excellent (not saying you btw, just a general observation)

 

 

[Guest reefatoon]

17 minutes ago, Max Cherry said:

Keep wondering how swapping 1 goal for 13 from the same position is a shit deal........

Because he doesn’t do this near the half way line  

 

[Guest]

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

15 minutes ago, LV said:

Once we know the actual fee I’d be interested to see a poll on who thinks selling him is a good idea or not 

I would be interested to see this thread locked and buried at sea

[prefabtoon]

We have all watched his fancy step overs. And also witnessed his sudden mood change, limping around the pitch, Then blowing out his arse before half time, wanting to come off. Sorry but Howe has realized he just doesn't fit how he wants the team to play.

We are doing the right thing now by cashing in on him. 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by prefabtoon

[PauloGeordio]

This Barnes deal/low ball transfer sorted yet so we can move onwards and upwards 

 

 

see above! 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by PauloGeordio

[The Prophet]

I'd argue for a player with such immense natural talent, he doesn't have enough direct goal threat.

 

I appreciate what he brings to the table, but he's not going to be notching ten goals a season.

[PauloGeordio]

3 minutes ago, reefatoon said:

Because he doesn’t do this near the half way line  

 

reminds me of this! Next please 

 

 

[McDog]

I will miss his flair. Takes on four players alone, beats three then loses the ball to the fourth. He is fun to watch.

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I'd argue for a player with such immense natural talent, he doesn't have enough direct goal threat.

 

I appreciate what he brings to the table, but he's not going to be notching ten goals a season.

Lucky to play 10 games 

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, McDog said:

I will miss his flair. Takes on four players alone, beats three then loses the ball to the fourth. He is fun to watch.

Isak v Everton dribbling is where it’s at now! 

[Erikse]

I don't know why people say that the only big problem injuries.. How many times did Howe leave him on the bench last season when he was fit? It was quite a few. I'm also not convinced that it was allways down to being careful when Howe talked about that being the reason.

 

I remember him being injury free for some months and still being on the bench. If he's so amazing and fit into the system, why is that?

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Erikse

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

I don't know why people say that the only big problem injuries.. How many times did Howe leave him on the bench last season when he was fit? It was quite a few. I'm also not convinced that it was allways down to being careful when Howe talked about that being the reason.

 

I remember him being injury free for some months and still being on the bench. If he's so amazing, why is that?

We know why! 

[HaydnNUFC]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

I don't know why people say that the only big problem injuries.. How many times did Howe leave him on the bench last season when he was fit? It was quite a few. I'm also not convinced that it was allways down to being careful when Howe talked about that being the reason.

 

I remember him being injury free for some months and still being on the bench. If he's so amazing and fit into the system, why is that?

 

 

 

 

Why do you think Isak was being left out by Howe post-WC when Wilson was stinking the place out from January-March?

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by HaydnNUFC

[patrone]

ASM is great and is as exciting as anyone out there, on his day, it's just that day isn't as often as what we need now.

 

I wish well when he leaves, and I am excited to see how his replacement gets on.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by patrone
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[JonBez comesock]

Selling maxi means we can spend a further £100m in FFP terms 

 

if the deal is around £30m

 

Yes it’s worth it 

 

check Swiss ramble or Dave wild on Twitter 

[nufc123]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I'd argue for a player with such immense natural talent, he doesn't have enough direct goal threat.

Thats my sticking point with him. Its always chaotic and frantic. His finishes is quite poor really.

[Nobody]

But he did some standing still step overs against Palace once

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

I often wonder if other fanbases are like ours like. There's a very clear disagreement on the true value of flair players that I've seen in our fanbase over and over again for coming up to 30 years now. 

[madras]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

I often wonder if other fanbases are like ours like. There's a very clear disagreement on the true value of flair players that I've seen in our fanbase over and over again for coming up to 30 years now. 

Possibly because they had major flaws. Hence how they ended up here and never really went on to the top and fulfilled their talent.

[KaKa]

The ASM complaints are truly perplexing.

 

He's a wonderful talent that I believe would have grown under Howe and adapted to his style as we were seeing signs of it already.

 

However, the man's body seemingly can't handle the intensity and for the most part he is either injured or not quite up to speed form wise because he can't get a run of games together.

 

On top of that there has been talk of him wanting a new contract, and although his ability probably warrants it, his availability and consistency does not.

 

This is a very straight forward and simple decision to allow him to move on and get better wages while we get some money in and improve our FFP situation.