Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Surely he can be coached though? He doesn't even need to improve his ability or out, just literally pass the ball more The annoying thing is it'll only make him him better, too. Fucking get your head up, pass, run and get the return. Then maybe you only have to beat 2 players instead of 5 and you still get the opportunity to score. Its so infuriating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Surely he can be coached though? He doesn't even need to improve his ability or out, just literally pass the ball more He did play the simple pass quite a bit today once he realised Ngakia was quick enough to keep up I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Thing that annoys me the most about him and somebody mentioned it here earlier and I did also is that he never runs in behind for the pass and always wants it to feet so it means he always has to beat the full back rather than having the head start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: The annoying thing is it'll only make him him better, too. Fucking get your head up, pass, run and get the return. Then maybe you only have to beat 2 players instead of 5 and you still get the opportunity to score. Its so infuriating I kna, like if he undersrand how triangles work he'll realise that he can bypass the 3 players infront of him and try his step overs against their CB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: I kna, like if he undersrand how triangles work he'll realise that he can bypass the 3 players infront of him and try his step overs against their CB Allan St Maximin. Doesnt understand triangles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Allan St Maximin. Doesnt understand triangles. For that reason he will never make it as a top player he just wants to do his own thing and get je4ked off by his twitter followers instead of actually being a team player and gaining respect from his teammates and us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Infuriating aside from the moment of magic. The question is whether the moment of magic outweighs the infuriation. Right now? Yeah, I think it does. And that's depressing as shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 He wasn't alone today, especially in the first half. Everyone was over thinking everything when we had the ball. Any chance to attack quickly was ruined by dallying then passing sideways, backwards or simply passing to the opposition. I'm glad we played through trippier and Fraser, although the latter seems to have lost the ability to beat a man. We still rely too much ASM doing something magical. He left Dummett exposed pretty much all game and while Joe did a good job covering ground, he should have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Did he leave Dummett exposed? Open to correction but seemed to me like the Ngakia kid wasn't interested in getting forward and then that Femenia didn't do much either until the cross for the goal which was after ASM went off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bompeter said: Provided the one moment of real quality in the game that would have secured us three points if it wasn’t for the appalling quality of his teammates. Unfortunately the narrative is set and he’s been ID’d as one of the problems in the squad by a not insignificant portion of our moronic fan base. I think being blinded by one moment instead of all the other ones is a bit more, if not moronic, simplistic and could be argued to be going with the exception not the rule in his overall performance today and generally. Hardly likely to see the downside of his game if that's all that's being looked at. To squander attacks, runs, positions by going into business for yourself would get your f**king arse kicked by lots of managers. Those of us that have played probably still feel echoes of that pressure to at minor levels, especially if trying to make it. Far from moronic like. Far better players than ASM have been sacrified for the greater good of the overall team regardless of how likely they were as opposed to their team-mates to create something. Edited January 15, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Aside from his goal he was poor. The point that I think is most important at the moment though is that he's more or less the only player we have where you can even start the sentence with 'aside from his goal...'. Just feels like a waste of time pointing out his obvious flaws when he's the best of a bad bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, triggs said: Thing that annoys me the most about him and somebody mentioned it here earlier and I did also is that he never runs in behind for the pass and always wants it to feet so it means he always has to beat the full back rather than having the head start I also find he slows attacks down as he will only pass when he thinks its his only option left and by that time it's too late - the chance has gone. Edited January 16, 2022 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Good goal, and that’s about that, awful in everything else! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Scored but other than that poor . However take him out and we had NOTHING , worrying . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He only passes the ball when it's his last option. Great goal but so many times he destroys the build up. Despite what he says he's only interested in himself. Wins are great for the team but only when he is the hero. Sadly we can't drop him because we have no one else capable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The main reason for his poor display yesterday was how slow we take to get the ball to him. So many times yesterday he was in space but by the time Lascelles or the midfield got the ball to him, Watford had doubled up on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He’s pretty much our only hope of a goal right now. I get that he’s frustrating at times but we just can’t leave out our only goal threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 If only he could see that he doesn't need to be the biggest fish in the pond to be loved by the fans, he's turned in to a stereotypical lazy French player since his pal Bruce left and he was only happy with Bruce because he let him do as he pleased. I still think Saint Max could be outstanding for us, but he's another who needs to change his attitude on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 13 hours ago, Biggsbond14 said: Because you blow him off instead of watching how little of a team player he is so don’t call others moronic for pointing out facts People do that though. There's still a queue of fans that blow Rafa off, and would happily sack Howe and have him back here next week. (And yes I do like Rafa, but wouldn't go back) On facts though, ASM is still our best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: People do that though. There's still a queue of fans that blow Rafa off, and would happily sack Howe and have him back here next week. (And yes I do like Rafa, but wouldn't go back) On facts though, ASM is still our best player. Make no mistake about it , take him out of the team and we WILL look horrific, I do get folks points though , it's a difficult one when he looked and often does look the only fucker who can score a goal mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, GWN said: Make no mistake about it , take him out of the team and we WILL look horrific, I do get folks points though , it's a difficult one when he looked and often does look the only fucker who can score a goal mind. Last week I was more annoyed when everyone was just blaming him and Howe, but to be honest, he wasn't brilliant yesterday, but is he brilliant, can he be brilliant, and has he been brilliant before, absolutely yes. In these shit times, he needs some protection from blame, because he's been good more than bad, we need to weed out the bad, before we start on him. The best players we have although early days are ASM/Wilson/Trippier/ and the new Joelinton. The rest are why we are in the bottom three. To be honest, we've all even written Willock off, but in comparison to ASM , he really has been off, so its warranted. Someone did mention on Willock though, move him to the right instead of Fraser, I think that could work, he certainly didnt fluke his performances the previous season, he just needs a more advanced role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 42 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Last week I was more annoyed when everyone was just blaming him and Howe, but to be honest, he wasn't brilliant yesterday, but is he brilliant, can he be brilliant, and has he been brilliant before, absolutely yes. In these shit times, he needs some protection from blame, because he's been good more than bad, we need to weed out the bad, before we start on him. The best players we have although early days are ASM/Wilson/Trippier/ and the new Joelinton. The rest are why we are in the bottom three. To be honest, we've all even written Willock off, but in comparison to ASM , he really has been off, so its warranted. Someone did mention on Willock though, move him to the right instead of Fraser, I think that could work, he certainly didnt fluke his performances the previous season, he just needs a more advanced role. The whole set up is fucked tbh , I still haven’t got a clue what position miggy is supposed to be playing in and wood isolated as is Wilson; asm playing off wood might work as a free role with someone else out left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He really does lack a lot of fundamentals to this game, like. He's not at all unpredictable - you know what he's going to do and he's very talented at that one thing which gets him out of trouble quite a bit. But he has no idea about movement, his passing is 'OK', his crossing technique is poor, shooting can be wayward. He's levels away from HBA in many facets. It felt like he got in the way on a few occasions yesterday but the goal was fantastic. Howe's wingers at Bournemouth were system-focused, from memory. Agile and quick but looked to beat a man and get early crosses in etc. Someone with Robert's attacking game would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 hours ago, HTT II said: Good goal, and that’s about that, awful in everything else! I always feel his shots are hit and hope rather than placed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toughseason16 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 He's easy to suss out, his distribution shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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