triggs Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yeah, I don’t even think it needs to involve the referee on the pitch TBH. Have a look at the replay, if he’s missed a foul or a dive, make the decision from the pictures. It’s a bit silly to persevere with this idea that you need to protect the status of the ref. He’s a human, he’s going to miss things, that’s why replays are good. Aye, good point. Take it out of the referee's hands. He's not an impartial observer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I really like the idea of a review system that managers can use during the game. Essentially get three people in a box to review the decision a manager disagrees with based on some sort of criteria and the consensus wins out. Keep the video for offsides only and red card tackles - job done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, andyc35i said: I really like the idea of a review system that managers can use during the game. Essentially get three people in a box to review the decision a manager disagrees with based on some sort of criteria and the consensus wins out. Keep the video for offsides only and red card tackles - job done Try cricket or rugby if you want to watch that, fuck the VAR off and just get back to the way it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I don’t really like the idea of challenges. The idea should be to get all the decisions correct, not dependent on what managers want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 VAR should be used to overturn egregious errors only. If it takes constantly rewinding to see some nuanced movement then it shouldn't be overturned. That mentality has hurt NFL and MLB, especially in the beginning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 23:30, chayton said: Sadly they've got to a point where they've decided VAR is not allowed to undermine a referee's decision - ergo he's got to have got it seriously wrong for them to even consider overturning it. And as you say in realtime you cannot microscopically disect it. This is where ASM is his own worst enemy. He's made the referee's mind up by trying over-egg it. As soon as that was done, it was never going to get overturned. This is why VAR need to make the call instead of the ref. In decades now referees have often not given freekicks and penalties unless the players over-play it, and often you can see they are avaiting a reaction from the player before they blow.. If players stay on their feet or dont react much they normally dont get anything, so I can understand ASM over-plays it because he/we dont get penalties that often and IF he doesnt over-play it we can certainly say we wouldnt get the penalty... Imho VAR need to correct the error, because in my book making the wrong decision about a penalty is seriously wrong so they should consider overturning it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Yeahhhh I don't think he he will the Ballon D'or like Me neither but with Ronaldo and Messi only a season or 2 away from retiring its anyone's game really. Especially if your name is Haaland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeahhhh I don't think he he will the Ballon D'or like Not with that attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, 54 said: Players with that ambition don't look dogshit against Cambridge in the FA cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, 54 said: I admire his optimism, but fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Players with that ambition don't look dogshit against Cambridge in the FA cup. Cup upsets do happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 That's from this article. It's a good read. Basically I can see him staying here for years should we stay up. But it's all about staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, 54 said: "it's not all about me" I'm getting a bit sick of him to be honest. He really needs to come back down to earth over the coming months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 One huge benefit of signing another attacker who can move well with and without the ball is that it should help to unlock ASM's potential. He's obviously talented, and points are always accessible when he's on the pitch, because he can come up with something out of nowhere even when playing poorly. He's incredibly unpolished and individualistic though, and if he's to be part of our future long-term he needs to settle into a role that is more than simply 'the wild card'. I'm not saying he needs to track back or lose his bandana; I'm saying he and the manager need to effectively blend him into the attacking unit, because I don't think that's happened yet. Recruiting more flair and relieving some of the pressure on him to provide all of it will really help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: "it's not all about me" I'm getting a bit sick of him to be honest. He really needs to come back down to earth over the coming months. Getting a bit sick of one of the very few players to give us any joy in recent seasons? I'll be honest, that's thrown me somewhat. Feels like all the colour is being drained away from my surroundings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I think he has the potential to be a Ballon d’or contender. Whether or not that will happen is a different matter though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Player has ambition to become best player in the world.... Gets turned into a negative ? I just appreciate him for his qualities that he brings to the team and know he will only keep improving with better coaching and surrounded by better players which will unlock more space for him to cause havok. Hope he stays fit till the end of the season. His fitness can only get better under Howe's management and hopefully will have a strong end to the season which is very important to get us the goals to survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, alexf said: Player has ambition to become best player in the world.... Gets turned into a negative Maybe he should try an individual sport that doesn't rely on everybody's contribution, or learn to bring others into his quest for glory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 More like fallon d'flor ahahahahaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 ? (please don't be seriously injured) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Maybe he should try an individual sport that doesn't rely on everybody's contribution, or learn to bring others into his quest for glory. Like Messi, Ronaldo, Salah etc etc?? You can want to be the best individual player you can whilst helping your team at the same time. Salah is the most greedy and selfish goal hungry player going but it still means his team benefits from that drive and desire to be the best. Sure saint-maximin could improve and learn when to pass and when to go alone more but that's all part of developing. Surround him with better players I'm sure he'll pass more once he can see they aren't gonna fuck up the chance he gives them, like our other players do on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, alexf said: Like Messi, Ronaldo, Salah etc etc?? You can want to be the best individual player you can whilst helping your team at the same time. Salah is the most greedy and selfish goal hungry player going but it still means his team benefits from that drive and desire to be the best. Sure saint-maximin could improve and learn when to pass and when to go alone more but that's all part of developing. Surround him with better players I'm sure he'll pass more once he can see they aren't gonna fuck up the chance he gives them, like our other players do on a regular basis. I bet you play Rocket league and think despite losing 10-0 you were the best player because you scored 200 points and your teammates barely got out of double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I don't even know what that is ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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