NEEJ Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 He looks a lot lighter in his most recent Instagram stories, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, NEEJ said: He looks a lot lighter in his most recent Instagram stories, like. Good to hear, maybe he can stop wearing permanent knee supports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, NEEJ said: He looks a lot lighter in his most recent Instagram stories, like. them uphill sprints he's doing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Good to hear, maybe he can stop wearing permanent knee supports. Won't need them now he's not carrying the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Odds on him scoring more than 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackZeeEeerz Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 When Allan starts his run I hit the yahtzee button, medium term that approach isn't going to win SH1T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Make or break season to me - if the lad can look up more often and release the ball just a little earlier he’ll be a cracking footballer. I thought the last two or three games of last year were the best ‘all round’ games he’d played for us - if we can get a better player on the other flank to take the pressure off his side it could make a massive difference. Plus Howe has a full pre-season to work with him. If next season is all running down blind alleys and shooting tamely from ludicrous angles then that’ll be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackZeeEeerz Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 He's watched far to many Messi youtube videos. Definitely got some Ketsbaia tasmanian devil about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Make or break season to me - if the lad can look up more often and release the ball just a little earlier he’ll be a cracking footballer. I thought the last two or three games of last year were the best ‘all round’ games he’d played for us - if we can get a better player on the other flank to take the pressure off his side it could make a massive difference. Plus Howe has a full pre-season to work with him. If next season is all running down blind alleys and shooting tamely from ludicrous angles then that’ll be it. Sorry, I disagree. The 'release it sooner' line is an observation built upon years of Bruce-ball - the movement off him was non-existent. Wilson tried, but one player won't cut it, you need to attack as a team. Wood, off the ball and when we're in possession, is generally woeful. Allan's literally only had a couple of games with Bruno and Wilson. The amount of one-twos and passes between Bruno and Allan is like night and day, I think Allan's had more completed passes to Bruno than the rest of the team combined. This guy recognises quality and I think he's going to flourish with more players around him who are comfortable in possession and know how to find space off the ball. When opponents know they can't just defend one 'magic-man', because we've got threats on both flanks and through the middle, he'll have more space and options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, HawK said: Sorry, I disagree. The 'release it sooner' line is an observation built upon years of Bruce-ball - the movement off him was non-existent. Wilson tried, but one player won't cut it, you need to attack as a team. Wood, off the ball and when we're in possession, is generally woeful. Allan's literally only had a couple of games with Bruno and Wilson. The amount of one-twos and passes between Bruno and Allan is like night and day, I think Allan's had more completed passes to Bruno than the rest of the team combined. This guy recognises quality and I think he's going to flourish with more players around him who are comfortable in possession and know how to find space off the ball. When opponents know they can't just defend one 'magic-man', because we've got threats on both flanks and through the middle, he'll have more space and options. Nowt to do with Bruce-ball whatsoever. The most naturally talented players I’ve seen in B&W - Beardsley, Ginola, Robert, HBA - didn’t hold on to the ball like ASM because all of those players had footballing intelligence. ASM, to date, has shown few signs that he has it - and I’m hoping some can coached in. Better players around you help, yes. No good team - or manager - would have put up with play that shite for any length of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Nowt to do with Bruce-ball whatsoever. The most naturally talented players I’ve seen in B&W - Beardsley, Ginola, Robert, HBA - didn’t hold on to the ball like ASM because all of those players had footballing intelligence. ASM, to date, has shown few signs that he has it - and I’m hoping some can coached in. Better players around you help, yes. No good team - or manager - would have put up with play that shite for any length of time. Sorry but you really can't compare this team with the ones that either of Ginola or Robert played in. Hatem also had 2 decent strikers to play off in Ba and Cisse. They're not fair comparisons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, HawK said: Sorry but you really can't compare this team with the ones that either of Ginola or Robert played in. Hatem also had 2 decent strikers to play off in Ba and Cisse. They're not fair comparisons. What about the one I saw Gazza play in? That was a side filled with mediocrities and a footballing genius. ASM is exciting in a shit team because he can beat a man. Playing in a shit team has potentially helped not hindered him - his worst excesses have not been curbed. If NUFC becomes the side we hope in the next couple of years he’ll have to either improve massively or be shipped off. ‘Bruce-ball’, if it has skewed anything, is to make people forget what really good footballers actually look like. ASM is more Ketsbaia with Twitter nous than a footballing genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: ASM is more Ketsbaia with Twitter nous than a footballing genius. Outrageous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: What about the one I saw Gazza play in? That was a side filled with mediocrities and a footballing genius. ASM is exciting in a shit team because he can beat a man. Playing in a shit team has potentially helped not hindered him - his worst excesses have not been curbed. If NUFC becomes the side we hope in the next couple of years he’ll have to either improve massively or be shipped off. ‘Bruce-ball’, if it has skewed anything, is to make people forget what really good footballers actually look like. ASM is more Ketsbaia with Twitter nous than a footballing genius. After comparing him with some of our best players in the PL era, you now want to compare him with one of the most talented footballers this country has ever produced? Look, Allan is a very good player playing in a limited team. He's not as good as Maradona either before you escalate there next. He can't pick a pass or dance around players in slow motion like Gazza or Beardsley, or switch it onto either side at will like Ginola. He can't take a free kick like Robert and he hasn't had a hope of replicating anything that Hatem did in a team with Ba, Cisse, Cabaye and Tiote all playing in their absolute prime years. No-one is saying Allan's the greatest player of a generation like your examples. I'm saying because of this, as he is a player with weaknesses, he needs better players around him - to be good off the ball, to take his 2nd man marker of him and focus on our breaking midfielders or have more space to operate as the defence is stretched worrying also about whoever will be doing an actual good job on right wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 He has had the weight of literally a whole team and club on him under Bruce. He was literally Bruce's no 1 tactic (and only one). Pre-season with Eddie and better players and be should be a different player. Needs to improve in certain areas for sure. Lets see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: ASM is more Ketsbaia with Twitter nous than a footballing genius. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Starting early on the pre-season per his instagram stories. Nice to see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 17/06/2022 at 23:00, TheBrownBottle said: What about the one I saw Gazza play in? That was a side filled with mediocrities and a footballing genius. ASM is exciting in a shit team because he can beat a man. Playing in a shit team has potentially helped not hindered him - his worst excesses have not been curbed. If NUFC becomes the side we hope in the next couple of years he’ll have to either improve massively or be shipped off. ‘Bruce-ball’, if it has skewed anything, is to make people forget what really good footballers actually look like. ASM is more Ketsbaia with Twitter nous than a footballing genius. That's been my main criticism of him as well. He's a fantastic talent, but he doesn't release the ball quickly enough, the best players spot the passes before defenders even see them coming. Yes I do accept that it's harder for him because our players don't make aggressive runs, but I personally don't think it comes naturally to him, he wants to hold the ball as long as possible. I have seen Ekiteke releases the ball quickly when a team mate is better positioned, and he's a lot younger than Maxi. These things shouldn't need coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 he's an absolute cunt like I love him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Nice to see him practicing passing the ball in preparation for next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpersForGoalposts Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I really like the bit where he does loads of tricks, fools no one and ends up standing exactly where he started, but with the added bonus of the defence getting a chance to get set and mark his teammates before he gets the chance to pass. A great laugh for him, but if I was one of the coaches, I wouldn't be laughing, because that's exactly the sort of crap that he needs to get out of the habit of doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JumpersForGoalposts said: I really like the bit where he does loads of tricks, fools no one and ends up standing exactly where he started, but with the added bonus of the defence getting a chance to get set and mark his teammates before he gets the chance to pass. A great laugh for him, but if I was one of the coaches, I wouldn't be laughing, because that's exactly the sort of crap that he needs to get out of the habit of doing. Fuck me - don’t think the coaches are having a melt down about a fun game of 5 a side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpersForGoalposts Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 hours ago, tgarve said: Fuck me - don’t think the coaches are having a melt down about a fun game of 5 a side Not a melt down, but I can almost hear the rolling of eyes in the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, JumpersForGoalposts said: I really like the bit where he does loads of tricks, fools no one and ends up standing exactly where he started, but with the added bonus of the defence getting a chance to get set and mark his teammates before he gets the chance to pass. A great laugh for him, but if I was one of the coaches, I wouldn't be laughing, because that's exactly the sort of crap that he needs to get out of the habit of doing. He did score though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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