Kimbo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 It might be a personal issue, we don’t really know anything yet. That said I’ve thought for a while that he won’t last here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, madras said: Hasn't been a bad apple ? Didn't he slag off his team mates saying he'd have as good stats as Mane if he had better team mates. Add that with not being an effective presser, just seemingly not wanting to do it. I don’t think a star player suggesting he’d be able to produce better stats if surrounded by better team mates is indicative of being a bad apple, considering it’s so evidently true? As for pressing, it’s quite clear that ASM was changing his approach to team play recently. Besides, we normally now play a CB at LB and we’re toothless going forward down that side, so playing ASM there makes a lot of sense anyway in terms of balance and keeping the opposition guessing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 If all this is true then it is a shame things didn’t work out; however, glad it’s happened in January so we can sell him and generate some funds to sign someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: I’m just saying I don’t know everything so I’m not gonna start saying things like “that’s a black Mark against howe” after what he’s achieved for us. As frustrating as the Leeds game was - in one year or so he’s taken a team that was below Leeds to such a level that they were terrified to do anything else but sit back and leave with a point. I trust Howe and all of his decisions, warts and all. But you were perfectly happy to black mark the player despite the same lack of info. That was my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Reckon he’s worth 30m at most? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 He's lazy, greedy and has said stuff in the French press in the past that weren't right. Whatever decision Howe has made, I'm backing it to be the correct one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Still can't see him going this month like.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Unbelievable said: But you were perfectly happy to black mark the player despite the same lack of info. That was my point. Fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, STM said: Comparing ASM to Ben Arfa is ridiculous. Sell ASM and let's move forward as a team. How so? He was pretty much our only lifewire for much of his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Bit annoying that unprofessionalism is diverting the conversation to a negative when everything else is going so well. Eddie Howe will back his squad and if ASM has been disrespectful to team mates through his frustrations, we can’t be having that in squad while we try and promote team spirit and harmony in the camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said: Reckon he’s worth 30m at most? I can only see a premier league team risking a big fee considering his recent fitness record. He might end up being sent on loan abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Unbelievable said: I don’t think a star player suggesting he’d be able to produce better stats if surrounded by better team mates is indicative of being a bad apple, considering it’s so evidently true? As for pressing, it’s quite clear that ASM was changing his approach to team play recently. Besides, we normally now play a CB at LB and we’re toothless going forward down that side, so playing ASM there makes a lot of sense anyway in terms of balance and keeping the opposition guessing? Coming out in the press with it is though and just comes over as petulant. Re The press, he hasn't changed that much, Wood still done his work for him recently as Maxi just changed the ball when it got close, no press in his press if you get what I mean. What he has changed is a little desire to give earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: St Max hasn’t been frozen out he’s been eased back for weeks on the bench. The trouble is Wilson is irreplaceable whereas we have coped adequately without St Max. We coped adequately without Wilson back end of last season, but since Wilson >> Wood naturally we’ve brought Wilson back in as soon as he was back to fitness. Don’t see why the same wouldn’t apply here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Hopefully Everton have some money as I think they could go stupid here and as much as I want them to go down, ASM would keep them up the way they play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Where does he go in the premier though ? Not good enough for a top 6 club , next best option be someone like Brighton or Villa? He Dosnt fit Brighton’s style of plays and can’t see Emery wanting him either , not got many options. Be a lower end team and he will not want to do that. Edited January 7, 2023 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Unless he's done something completely irredeemable we don't have the luxury of selling him this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 You get onboard or you fuck off. Doesn’t matter who you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Shame. Was looking forward to seeing him play for longer than 10 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 If we do sell him I would be ok with it, if it meant we got Maddison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, nemtizz said: Unless he's done something completely irredeemable we don't have the luxury of selling him this window. of course we do. We get a good fee and then reinvest it with someone who is a better fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 But we don’t know any facts yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Not 100% comfortable making conclusions based on instagram activity analysts. Wish he was there with the team so I could get a more reliable opinion from the body language experts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, James said: Hopefully Everton have some money as I think they could go stupid here and as much as I want them to go down, ASM would keep them up the way they play. Im not sure where he’d fit or who’s got enough money to take him off our hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Swap ASM and Dubravka for Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, PauloGeordio said: But we don’t know any facts yet When has that mattered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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