Shearergol Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, NUFC said: Im not sure about replacing ASM with Barnes, would be a small improvement but when were restricted with FFP and need quality in other positions like LB and CB id be tempted to keep him and pie off Barnes. We already massively overpaid for Gordon with will have impacted us FFP wise have you missed the 40ish posts there are explaining how this helps us with ffp like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Shearergol said: have you missed the 40ish posts there are explaining how this helps us with ffp like? I meant we wasted money on Gordon when we didnt need him in Jan. We are now need to sell ASM to buy Barnes when the difference between them isnt much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, NUFC said: Im not sure about replacing ASM with Barnes, would be a small improvement but when were restricted with FFP and need quality in other positions like LB and CB id be tempted to keep him and pie off Barnes. We already massively overpaid for Gordon with will have impacted us FFP wise If / when he scores 2 goals and gets 6 assists it’s an improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, NUFC said: I meant we wasted money on Gordon when we didnt need him in Jan. We are now need to sell ASM to buy Barnes when the difference between them isnt much Eddie Howe doesn’t agree with you Trust him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, JonBez comesock said: If / when he scores 2 goals and gets 6 assists it’s an improvement So your picking a season where ASM only started 12 games as the benchmark... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, NUFC said: I meant we wasted money on Gordon when we didnt need him in Jan. We are now need to sell ASM to buy Barnes when the difference between them isnt much "Wasted" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) It sounds like we were planning to buy Gordon this summer regardless. We may well have been priced out if we'd waited. Edited July 20, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I know it’s cliche to point this out, but if he was called Antonio Gordinho, we’d signed him for the same fee from abroad and he’d just won the Player of the Tournament at the U21 Euros our fans would be cock in hand that we’ve got one of the top prospects in world football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, SiLvOR said: I was barely ever watching under Bruce, so I never got attached to anyone really, Maxi obviously included. That's probably why I'm only a little bit sad about this. Whereas if it were Joelinton going, I'd be completely gutted, seeing his turnaround under Howe and what a cracking bloke he is. Maxi unfortunately hasn't had that chance to shine really, be it through injury or just not favoured enough. This is me. I really like ASM as a player, he makes things happen and he's exciting to watch. He was always going to move on at some point, though. Howe's been incredible, give him the players he really wants and let him work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I think and hope Gordon has a great season coming up, but fans are mostly judging him on what they saw on the pitch last season - which is not unreasonable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 hours ago, patrone said: Will ASM be remembered the same way the likes of Ginola and Laurent Robert are Or more the the way of Scott Sellars and Ruel Fox ?♂️ Scott Sellars was a superb left winger who was unfortunately blighted by injury who was an effective player in an excellent side. ASM sits below Sellars in the LW pecking order every time for me. Fox was a very good player who blew hot & cold. He was one of my favourites when he was here, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, christ said: I know it’s cliche to point this out, but if he was called Antonio Gordinho, we’d signed him for the same fee from abroad and he’d just won the Player of the Tournament at the U21 Euros our fans would be cock in hand that we’ve got one of the top prospects in world football. Antonioni Geordinio for me! Edited July 20, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 from eddie's quotes this morning, i think we've "encouraged" ASM to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Absolute bizarre take to say we’ve “wasted” money on the Euro U21’s Player of the Tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Displayname said: As someone who wanted him to stay here, I think i will forget him pretty fast. His edgy emo instagram posts turned me a little off tbh. Judging the value of footballers by their Instagram posts? This world is crazy. What if you found out Ginola used to collect stamps or was into carving poetry into wood? Would that’ve turned you off him anarl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, huss9 said: from eddie's quotes this morning, i think we've "encouraged" ASM to move on. It makes sense. I thought ASMs ambiguous post at the end of the year was one where he wanted to stay, but his gut / info he had told him that he'd be moved on. I thought at the time it was a "please stick with me I'm trying to be the best I can be, but if I do go, I gave everything, please love me" post Edited July 20, 2023 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Regards Anthony Gordon, his confidence should be high after the England U21s win, we need to get behind the lad, seems like we could be in danger of writing the kid off - give him a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, huss9 said: from eddie's quotes this morning, i think we've "encouraged" ASM to move on. Was never a huge fan of Gordon, even more so having paid £45M for him, but he had a cracking Euros. To write him off so early, when he came here with ultra low confidence, would be strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, greydos said: Judging the value of footballers by their Instagram posts? This world is crazy. What if you found out Ginola used to collect stamps or was into carving poetry into wood? Would that’ve turned you off him anarl? I wouldnt mind either of those things. But yes, the personality of the footballers has a say in what i think of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, hakka said: So your picking a season where ASM only started 12 games as the benchmark... That could've happened next season aswell.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, hakka said: So your picking a season where ASM only started 12 games as the benchmark... Totally see your point, but surely the players fitness and availability are (key) factors when considering their value to a club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Erikse said: That could've happened next season aswell.. Many things could happen, so what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Shearergol said: have you missed the 40ish posts there are explaining how this helps us with ffp like? it helps a little bit but, if spread over 2 or 3 more players, it really only covers a year or so's worth of amortization, no? the rest of it will still need to be made up somehow. we still need massive, massive improvements on the commercial side to continue growing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: Totally see your point, but surely the players fitness and availability are (key) factors when considering their value to a club? So if a player has one season out of many where they drop as low as 12 starts, you have to assume that is going to keep happening and ignore seasons before where he started more? It's pure selective nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, NUFC said: I meant we wasted money on Gordon when we didnt need him in Jan. We are now need to sell ASM to buy Barnes when the difference between them isnt much Both those opinions might turn out to be quite wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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