Players wages

[Disco]

I don’t see why it’s on the players. Yes on the face of it, it’s morally dubious that they are taking home full pay of thousands while other staff don’t get paid, but they are employees. The owner should be covering the shortfall, not them. I don’t ever see this attitude aside from football.

 

Most players are from demographics that are not supposed to be independently wealthy so middle England despises them for it and knows turning on them will mask their own shortfalls and misgivings.

[Penn]

I just wouldn't pay the greedy fuckers. Let them take me to court. I think extenuating circumstances might play a role. Could even set a necessary precedent.

 

If I was a billionaire. And I would put their salaries into a high interest account, just in case.

 

If you were a billionaire you wouldn't pay your employees? And it's the employees that are the greedy fuckers in this scenario?

[morpeth mag]

I think footballers are just an easy target. Their salaries are no more or less obscene just because we have a pandemic. If the government wanted to do this fairly they could introduce a high end income tax, say 90% if you earn over £2m pa. If they wanted to they could introduce a wealth tax or a land tax but then what's the point of voting Tory if you don't look after your own.

[The College Dropout]

Most premier league owners are billionaires. We should be looking at them first and foremost. How much tax do these people pay?

 

And between the pfa and the fa they should be organising some type of collective action from the players. 

 

 

Most pl footballers will be paying 45% in taxes anyway.

 

Why not introduce higher taxes for high earners and asset holders? Rather than this weird targeting of football players. Last week it was landlords. 

[Guest chicken little]

Lower down the league where the margins are finer, sure, but a company such as - to pick an examples at random - MASH Holdings should have the money to meet all of its contractual obligations. It's a point of principle that goes beyond saying aaah well they've been earning enough for long enough. Fuck that. Any Premier League club at risk of going to the wall over paying its wage bill during the games being called off would be another example of a club being run like shite.

 

Pure shite from Hancock to distract from the fucking pig's ear the government have (purposefully) made of the NHS. If the country wasn't ran like a fucking tax haven, you could close a shitload of loopholes and avoidance schemes, and the government would surely be getting a shitload more money out of professional footballers anyway (as well as all the spreadsheet parasites Hancock daren't name for fear of offending the donors...)

 

Did Hancock actually say how this was supposed to work, beyond them giving up the money. Are they expecting Miggy Almiron to cut a cheque payable to the NHS?

[Disco]

[Neil]

We're in danger of getting a situation of people pointing at each other in a shit game of "no, you first" and missing the point that the mega-rich should be contributing, plain and simple.

 

Yes it's obscene someone can have billions and not do something about this, but it's also obscene someone can have millions and dither on it. This is a global emergency, just fucking get on with it.

[loki679]

We're in danger of getting a situation of people pointing at each other in a shit game of "no, you first" and missing the point that the mega-rich should be contributing, plain and simple.

 

Yes it's obscene someone can have billions and not do something about this, but it's also obscene someone can have millions and dither on it. This is a global emergency, just fucking get on with it.

 

[jdckelly]

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Donating to the NHS is a strange concept. It’s not a charity, it’s part of the state.

[Kanj]

If the players decide on their own or as a group to take cuts to support their staff, community, etc. so be it. But the idea they HAVE to take a cut out of morality is a really baseless argument. So many footballers come from nothing, and so many of them are constantly paying it forward without any fanfare around it. Giving more of their income than most do. But since it’s a lot of money they are paid on a gross basis people always point fingers at them.

 

People so quick to point fingers and get upset without a single bit of worldview on things. “Oh, you’re mega rich - go give your money to XYZ because they lost their job. If you don’t you’re a terrible human being.”

[AyeDubbleYoo]

While voting for politicians who hammer the poor and destroy public services.

[loki679]

So just furlough them like everyone else and they can get 80% up to a maximum of £2500 a month.

[Wullie]

Amazing how quickly avid lefties will turn into free market capitalists when it comes to footballers having to give anything up.

[Wullie]

Love to know who this is:

 

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock

 

Never agreed with anything more in my life. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Milner since he's never used an agent.

[loki679]

Amazing how quickly avid lefties will turn into free market capitalists when it comes to footballers having to give anything up.

 

It's bonkers.  Acting like there's no difference between someone on a footballers salary and the bloke in marketing earning 20k a year.

 

Why should those with the least be the first to sacrifice?

[loki679]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

[Wullie]

Love to know who this is:

 

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock

 

Never agreed with anything more in my life. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Milner since he's never used an agent.

 

“But the thing with this current situation is, it shouldn’t be left up to the lads to make individual donations. The non-playing staff wage bill isn’t that big. The club should fork out for that or the fucking owners should; they’re richer than any of us.”

 

That’s pretty much exactly what I’ve been saying and you disagreed with it?

 

The last point is that the FA and Premier League should mandate pay cuts. You disagreed because you don't want anything taking off the poor souls.

 

I would have thought the left wing position is that nobody should have that much money, money that they cannot possibly spend. Must change my definition of socialism to "hoard as much money as possible as long as you can claim to have earned it"

[Happinesstan]

Also it’s not a case of being free market capitalist. I’ve always said I think footballers should be the ones getting the obscene sums of money that come into the game, and how much it generates as an industry. Pay workers proportionally to the revenue they create is a very left wing position.

 

Doubt that’s Milner in the article btw I can’t imagine he swears that much, just doesn’t strike me as the sort.

 

I've always thought, since the time that there were ridiculous amounts of money pouring into the game, that the amount could easily be reduced in the form of lower admission prices and cheaper subscription to the broadcasters.

[loki679]

Love to know who this is:

 

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock

 

Never agreed with anything more in my life. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Milner since he's never used an agent.

 

“But the thing with this current situation is, it shouldn’t be left up to the lads to make individual donations. The non-playing staff wage bill isn’t that big. The club should fork out for that or the fucking owners should; they’re richer than any of us.”

 

That’s pretty much exactly what I’ve been saying and you disagreed with it?

 

The last point is that the FA and Premier League should mandate pay cuts. You disagreed because you don't want anything taking off the poor souls.

 

I would have thought the left wing position is that nobody should have that much money, money that they cannot possibly spend. Must change my definition of socialism to "hoard as much money as possible as long as you can claim to have earned it"

 

It's fucking nonsense.  Bob the doorman has to try and get by on 80% of his 15k a year but heaven forbid the bloke earning 277 times as much for kicking a ball has to take a drop.

 

Any cuts, in any industry should start at the top as those are the people best placed to absorb it.

[Happinesstan]

Love to know who this is:

 

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock

 

Never agreed with anything more in my life. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Milner since he's never used an agent.

 

“But the thing with this current situation is, it shouldn’t be left up to the lads to make individual donations. The non-playing staff wage bill isn’t that big. The club should fork out for that or the fucking owners should; they’re richer than any of us.”

 

That’s pretty much exactly what I’ve been saying and you disagreed with it?

 

The last point is that the FA and Premier League should mandate pay cuts. You disagreed because you don't want anything taking off the poor souls.

 

I would have thought the left wing position is that nobody should have that much money, money that they cannot possibly spend. Must change my definition of socialism to "hoard as much money as possible as long as you can claim to have earned it"

 

It's fucking nonsense.  Bob the doorman has to try and get by on 80% of his 15k a year but heaven forbid the bloke earning 277 times as much for kicking a ball has to take a drop.

 

Any cuts, in any industry should start at the top as those are the people best placed to absorb it.

 

That should never need explaining to anybody.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'm not sure anyone would disagree with that. The debate seems to be more about whether they should volunteer themselves.

[triggs]

It's down to the owners/chairmen really though isn't it? Like Bob down the factory isn't voluntarily taking 80% of his wage. Its utterly reprehensible behaviour when owners of football clubs hit the lowest paid workers the hardest though and if players see that going on at their club they should speak out

[Wullie]

I've never said they should volunteer themselves. In fact I specifically said the complete opposite - mandatory pay cuts, like the rest of society has had, only most of them would actually notice, unlike footballers.

[Guest]

John Oster posted something on Twitter that in 2016/17, £3.3bn tax was paid by Premier League, clubs & players.

 

Think it’s only a matter of time before players contribute more or waive wages, etc too. Massive source of wealth to the government.