Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, HTT II said: He ran his bollocks off last night, but he’s showing his lack of pace these days. A good outing in terms of effort, however. He always does. He'll be a fantastic sub when we're fully fit. Him and Elliott [And possibly Almiron if we play Wilson and Isak together.] should be enough to ensure we never see Murphy again. Edited September 1, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Cant start the next game. Been offering nothing for two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Looked like he could be a player last season but he has been abysmal so far in this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Total crap. His party piece of hitting the keeper with every single cross hurt us today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 He's absolutely shite like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Worst player on the pitch by some distance. On a day when we really needed some pace and aggression from Maxi to unlock a packed defence, instead we got this hobbit playing like he'd only had one breakfast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 3 hours ago, et tu brute said: He's absolutely shite like Has been since we signed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 He's just a younger version of Ritchie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He really was dreadful yesterday. That strike in the first half was decent but he had a great chance in the second half he should’ve buried. His passing was woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He had a bad game, I don't think that means he's bad overall and doesn't offer anything. Likewise Almiron who's very limited on his best days had a worse day than usual. Likewise Joelinton, Schar, Bruno, Targett, Trippier to an extent. Everyone was off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 8 hours ago, TRon said: Worst player on the pitch by some distance. On a day when we really needed some pace and aggression from Maxi to unlock a packed defence, instead we got this hobbit playing like he'd only had one breakfast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: He had a bad game, I don't think that means he's bad overall and doesn't offer anything. Hes an attacking player like Almiron. They dont make goals or assists. 1 or 2 per season of both. Its shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Hes an attacking player like Almiron. They dont make goals or assists. 1 or 2 per season of both. Its shocking. Back end of last season Fraser was like. He's been generally good under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Back end of last season Fraser was like. He's been generally good under Howe. Like everyone he had an upturn. He cant get past his man, he doesnt set up other players in the team, his delivery is ok but thats about it. He gratfs like Almiron but the stats dont lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He's a proper counter attacking player. Doesn't have the skill or acceleration to get things turned against a deeper side. Frustratingly, Almiron shows flashes of this but then refuses to use his right foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Hes an attacking player like Almiron. They dont make goals or assists. 1 or 2 per season of both. Its shocking. Almiron actually was very lively yesterday, he made some great runs, and worked some very dangerous positions, but once he got there, as usual, he had no idea where to go. Fraser was just unable to get in the game because there was no space, and he hasn't got the tools to make any. As Gallowgate Toon has said above, he's a counter attacking player, he needs a head start on defenders otherwise they can usually shut him down pretty easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, TRon said: Almiron actually was very lively yesterday, he made some great runs, and worked some very dangerous positions, but once he got there, as usual, he had no idea where to go. Fraser was just unable to get in the game because there was no space, and he hasn't got the tools to make any. As Gallowgate Toon has said above, he's a counter attacking player, he needs a head start on defenders otherwise they can usually shut him down pretty easily. Yeah they are lively and graft every freaking game, but they are attacking players and they dont deliver what they are supposed to do. They wouldt be near the start eleven for most PL teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 4 hours ago, nufc123 said: Like everyone he had an upturn. He cant get past his man, he doesnt set up other players in the team, his delivery is ok but thats about it. He gratfs like Almiron but the stats dont lie. Another player bought to suit our counter attacking style [as if]. Did well with out backs against the wall last season, but lacks the skills to dominate the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Bournemouth fans hate him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GWN said: Bournemouth fans hate him Isn't that because he essentially went on strike and refused to play for them, before he signed for us? I don't dislike him. The same as Almiron, he grafts every match and gives 110%, but he lacks the real quality we need to move up to the level we want to be. Edited September 18, 2022 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Happinesstan said: Another player bought to suit our counter attacking style [as if]. Did well with out backs against the wall last season, but lacks the skills to dominate the game. Ive been very critical of Almiron. Ive also said Murphy and Fraser are just as good. I was so wrong. Fraser just dont do anything. At least Almiron has pace very few defenders have. He sets up play with Bruno and Trippier. I know its more difficult with Targett but there is just nothing going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Klaus said: Isn't that because he essentially went on strike and refused to play for them, before he signed for us? Even that isn't really what happened. His contract had expired and they wanted him to play on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryPie Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: Even that isn't really what happened. His contract had expired and they wanted him to play on. His contract expired at the end of the season, but COVID pushed the end of the season beyond the end of his contract. A lot of us felt that he should have done the decent thing and seen the season out even if that meant extending his contract for a handful of games - as many, many players at clubs at all levels did. It’s how we all pulled together after a global pandemic - we all did a bit extra for each other. Eddie plucked Fraser from Scottish obscurity for 400k, turned him into the player that tore Liverpool a new one in a 4-3 victory at Dean Court, all the while (by Fraser’s own admission) looking after him like a surrogate father. We felt that he owed Eddie, if not us, that bit of loyalty. But we understand that his contract was up and even if the average person with a bit of moral fibre would have seen out the season (according to the spirit if not the letter of his contract), he was under no obligation to do so. What most people outside our fanbase don’t realise is that he was open in the press that he simply hadn’t tried for us all season (Google it). That’s the bit we really can’t forgive. He was so desperate to get his big move that he couldn’t be bothered to play for the manager who made him. And had he given his best for a full season, no way we go down. I was delighted that the move didn’t work out, that hated his shockingly bad manager and was a flop with the fans. Ironically, it was being reunited with Eddie last season that made him look like a player again for 5 minutes. He was a one season wonder for us and will be out of your doors within two more windows. Frankly, there’s no way he would have started for us on Saturday, and may not even have made the bench. (And for all the boo-boys in your stands, that’s the reality of why you didn’t beat us (and nothing to do with Eddie)… your best half a dozen players are in a different league to us, but the rest are Fraser-standard - and you can’t fix that overnight). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I like him as a sub to come on for 20 mins but shouldn't be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Very fair comments @CherryPie, I was dead against Fraser staying on with us last season until he started putting in outrageously high effort performances. For Eddie’s high press system I thought he could work, especially as he can actually whip a ball in but he seems to have slowed down, is picking up injuries and is not going all out like he was last season. I think it’s time for him to move on to a lower PL / upper championship side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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