Lazarus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Is Ryan just sitting on his fat contract? Is he injured? Disappointing, if not shameful, given how short a playing career is, that someone would just accept money for nothing and miss out on playing out his career with pride. Wait til you hear about all the players moving to Saudi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: I wonder if he’s well liked amongst the lads or whether there’s a bit of “if you would just fuck off then we could bring in someone better” attitude towards him. he’s been excluded from the first team training for the best part of a year so they probably don’t think about him much apart from the former Bournemouth lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Wait til you hear about all the players moving to Saudi At least they’ll play. And in all likelihood have more influence on games/be more involved than they would in previous leagues. I get needing to have financial security. I don’t get throwing away the opportunity to play competitive football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 His next contract will be a pittance compared to what he's on now, don't blame him one bit for hanging on to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nobody said: His next contract will be a pittance compared to what he's on now, don't blame him one bit for hanging on to it. yes I don’t get it when people are saying he should play for pride and glory elsewhere. what is he meant to do as a squad player for Everton or Norwich that will lead to pride equivalent to the £2m a year he would thus lose out on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Yup. We’re simply still paying for Ashley’s silliness in handing out long contracts to undeserving players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Is he injured? Reading between the lines recon it could be a case of his injury history deeming him not long for the game, and he's getting out as much of his contract possible knowing he may not even get a 2/3 year deal at a Championship on. However true - but when he left Bouremouth it wasn't a huge bust up with Howe as publicised, and just him not wanting to risk injury playing the Covid games ruining his value for a free transfer that summer. Would tie in him wanting that last big contract post Bouremouth if he's been told somewhere in his career that injuries are going to retire him before 32/33... Edited August 16, 2023 by Hot Since 1882 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I can’t blame him for sitting on his contract mind. I blame the previous regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 He'll go somewhere on loan, along with Hendrick. We'll just be hanging on to see how much of their wages we can get another club to pay. Celtic might pay 20% or so of his wages, they'll probably want to pay less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 He must be a right bad bastard if no teams in the Champo want him. He'd be decent signing for anyone chasing the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 He had one impressive season in 2018/19 where he provided 14 assists and scored 7 goals. We then jumped in a season after and got him on a free transfer on a big wage for 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Don’t blame him at all for sitting. We’ll do good to get 50% of his wages off for this season. Problem with these lot. They’ve not contributed a lot to any team in a good few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Don’t blame him at all for sitting. We’ll do good to get 50% of his wages off for this season. Problem with these lot. They’ve not contributed a lot to any team in a good few years. This. The lad calling him 'shameful' for not voluntarily forfeiting millions of pounds ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 His career at the top level is done, he needs to have a tight grip on that contract. He'll get a loan somewhere but we are still paying at least half of his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I hear the Willy Wonka prequel is looking for up and coming Oompa Loompas. Fraser could always get his Equity card and try out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I would like to see if any of the folks slating him (or any 'greedy' player) for seeing his contract out would actually turn down just over 3.5m per year (before tax) on principle/pride. Which is what they're asking Fraser to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: This. The lad calling him 'shameful' for not voluntarily forfeiting millions of pounds ffs We’ve each got our own values and the difference isn’t critical; such as between having enough money for the rest of your life, or not having enough money for the rest of your life. It is just robbing a living where you’re not needed or wanted vs. recouping less but actually earning a living by doing what you’re good at. Personally, I think he’d find it a lot easier to look at himself in the mirror with the latter approach to his ‘career’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: We’ve each got our own values and the difference isn’t critical; such as between having enough money for the rest of your life, or not having enough money for the rest of your life. It is just robbing a living where you’re not needed or wanted vs. recouping less but actually earning a living by doing what you’re good at. Personally, I think he’d find it a lot easier to look at himself in the mirror with the latter approach to his ‘career’. If he has family he could set his kids up for life, or he could play some championship football. Not a hard decision. And he’s being paid by the largest sovereign wealth fund in the world, it’s not like the owners will miss the money. If it wasn’t for FFP no Newcastle fans would give a stuff either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 To be honest, I think he is mid to lower table Championship standard now anyways. It's a sad end to a career that is so short anyways, but completely understand picking up a wage that other clubs won't even be willing to meet half way wage wise. Meh, hopefully a mistake with a contract that won't be repeated, and be left in the past with the previous owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I loved his effort at the back end of the season before last. He ran himself into the ground. He played an important part in some good results. He seemed well liked in those vids with longstaff etc. He's got a good sense of humour. Shame it's went the way it has like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, pedro111 said: I loved his effort at the back end of the season before last. He ran himself into the ground. He played an important part in some good results. He seemed well liked in those vids with longstaff etc. He's got a good sense of humour. Shame it's went the way it has like. Aye, the Fraser and Burn comedy duo was pretty class while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I would like to see if any of the folks slating him (or any 'greedy' player) for seeing his contract out would actually turn down just over 3.5m per year (before tax) on principle/pride. Which is what they're asking Fraser to do. I'd play for free, me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 He did pretty well when he came into the team in 21-22, in truth. Kept out both Almiron and Murphy for a time. Not sure exactly what has happened but I reckon he could still do a job in the PL if the application is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Barnes23 said: He did pretty well when he came into the team in 21-22, in truth. Kept out both Almiron and Murphy for a time. Not sure exactly what has happened but I reckon he could still do a job in the PL if the application is there. Luton or Sheff United maybe, but even then I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, wormy said: I'd play for free, me. Of course you would- you’re a fan. Would you go and do your job for free though? I know I wouldn’t. Nor would I move jobs and lose millions of £’s unless I had to, especially if I only had a few more years left to work and hopefully a long time to live after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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