Guest HTT II Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Players like Ronaldo pay for themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 That's just not true. Maybe in the long term, if it had led to CL success, more signings of the same ilk and eventually an established global brand you could quantify that it was ultimately and eventually worth the outlay. If they end up in the Europa league next season you can categorically say that hasn't and won't happen. It's a gamble that basically hasn't paid off. And it has fuelled their sheer desperation for a Super League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Froggy said: Agree with all of this except for the sunk cost statement. I would love to know the figures, but Ronaldo has made Juventus an absolute fortune as well. They've signed new sponsorship deals since he arrived, they've sold a ridiculous amount of Ronaldo shirts, their social media presence has rocketed by 300-400% which allows them to market a lot more products. He has obviously cost them money overall, but I would say there other players there that are more of a drain than him. Ramsey for example on £400,000 who has no marketable assets whatsoever has probably cost Juventus more money than Ronaldo has, and with zero benefits. Ramsey isn't on 400k a year. He's on 134k after tax. Ronaldo is on 600k after tax. Undoubtedly a terrible signing. But they probably thought if it didn't work out they'd just flog him back to a PL club at a 'profit' - like they did with Can to the Bundesliga. Free transfers like this one have been terrible for squad building, no doubt. Signing players because they're a 'market opportunity' rather than actually a good idea for the team is one of the major reasons for their decline. Edited May 21, 2021 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Silly me using BBC as a source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ponsaelius said: Ramsey isn't on 400k a year. He's on 134k after tax. Ronaldo is on 600k after tax. Undoubtedly a terrible signing. But they probably thought if it didn't work out they'd just flog him back to a PL club at a 'profit' - like they did with Can to the Bundesliga. Free transfers like this one have been terrible for squad building, no doubt. Signing players because they're a 'market opportunity' rather than actually a good idea for the team is one of the major reasons for their decline. Ronaldo brings you the marketing opportunity as well as the star quality needed for any team to be successful, Juve’s decline is not down to signing Ronaldo, and I say decline, they have won things with Ronaldo in their team and will no doubt (if they get rid of Pirlo and spend wisely on quality) be successful again. Edited May 21, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 13 hours ago, HTT II said: Or conversely maximise the package of what Ronaldo brings and profit from that with success, but Pirlo, but Ramsey... But... Ronaldo, a waste of money, a mistake, a hue failure, set Juve back years, me if I’m a supporter rather than get upset about 10% earnings from a German company I’d be honoured to witness one of the GOAT in my club’s colours title or no title. Give your heard a shake, that’s why the ESL was dreamed up FFS! MY head a shake? The reason the ESL was formed was to grab money so that those clubs could afford to overpay even more ‘superstars’ in order to make yet more money off the back of shirt sales, corporate sponsorship, etc. I’d happily not see Ronaldo wearing NUFC colours if it meant that the club was run responsibly and we could afford 2 or 3 other top class players instead, who we could use as a solid foundation for the next 5+ years. The comparisons with signing Shearer in his prime are a nonsense. This isn’t a 27 year old Ronaldo we’re talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 See the referee in the Blackpool game is that useless cunt from the infamous Ritchie penalty farce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Brentford channeling their inner Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hilarious that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBuzzcocks Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 What is that defending haha? In the 5th minute too, they'd be forgiven if they were 1-0 down at 90 mins for not leaving anyone back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 The kind of goal that play offs give you. Intense pressure makes great viewing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Harsh as owt that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 What's Begovic doing. This is class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Thought Bergovic was going to do a Mirandina, lost it for a moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 There will be a red card in this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBuzzcocks Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Idiot defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 There we go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I like Brentford but I hope Bournemouth do it. Bournemouth seem one of those clubs who could end up sinking back down the leagues within a few years if they don't come back up sharpish whereas I think Brentford will be Championship contenders for a few years before eventually going up anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 More of a pen than the pen given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 That was a penalty like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 This game is class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Yep really enjoyable game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Scores with a 25 yard tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hopefully more of this over the coming play off matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, frankpingel said: Hopefully more of this over the coming play off matches. Except the one at 3:30, a boring 0-0 will be welcomed there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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