Steve Bruce (now unemployed)

[Ben]

He's had an absolute disgusting start to the season and now he has two weeks off, plenty of time to keep his head down and probably have a week off. 

[jackyboy]

Why is it that we always defend on the edge of our 18 yard box, no wonder we concede goals. Defend further up the pitch then you haven't got so far to go on the counter and don't have to rely on ASM carrying the ball 90 yards every time

[Fantail Breeze]

Started the season against West Ham, Aston Villa, Burnley & Southampton and have one point and a cup exit to show for it

 

Couldn’t have asked for an easier start.

[nbthree3]

5 points behind on last season already, looks like the luck's coming from other games this season 

 

[Fantail Breeze]

Put this in a spoiler because it’s a Luke Edwards tweet and appreciate not everyone will want to see that guff:

 

Spoiler

 

 

The bloke is unreal  “after 25 minutes of the second home game of the season”. Has Bruce not been in charge serving up the same shit football for two full seasons now?

[nbthree3]

 Pretty much but he hasn't been replying to fans which was his main point. "Pearls of wisdom"

[Pilko]

What chances were these exactly? Wilson had a header saved just before HT from a corner, a 25 yard free kick from Murphy went over and Murphy also had a deflected cross tipped round. That was it

 

He's on another planet the fucking imbecile.

[nbthree3]

Doesn't look good 

 

[Ben]

Edwards has such a hatred of Newcastle fans that he actively writes stuff to try and contradict their feelings I this case totally forgetting that this is the start of the third season of this shite 

[Happinesstan]

He wouldn't exist at all if people stopped posting his shit on here.

[BlueStar]

1 hour ago, Paully said:

Absolutely glorious to hear the stick this bellend got yesterday! 

Booed when he touched the ball, "We want Brucey out" and "fat mackem bastard" chants and we weren't even behind at any point. Gonna get good when we get a hammering. 

[Guest]

Was just a shame it was short lived for those few minutes. Needs to be relentless.

[Ben]

8 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

He wouldn't exist at all if people stopped posting his shit on here.

I've said it before, the mods should ban all Edwards content and make a statement on social media explaining why, Talksport will be all over it tomorrow 

[Happinesstan]

12 minutes ago, Ben said:

I've said it before, the mods should ban all Edwards content and make a statement on social media explaining why, Talksport will be all over it tomorrow 

Should fucking ban anything from Twitter.

[Disco]

One day I will look at something the way the NE press pack looks at their darling Steve.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

I don’t know why Ashley doesn’t think the same. I know his job is to keep us up but what players are we going to make a profit on? He must be near an £80m net spend? We could probably double our money on ASM but don’t think that’s anything to do with Bruce, and Fraser by default we might get £8m for but he was a £15-20m player a year before we got him. 
 

Schar was a probably similar at the end of that 18/19 season, Longstaff in the £25m category based on potential. Lewis was being lined up by Liverpool as Robertson’s long term replacement, he can’t even get in ahead of a Championship level winger in his favoured position. Joelinton would probably get £8-10m from a Turkish club or something if we’re lucky. Throw in the 5-10k tickets we’re down other than giveaways and surely Ashley can see now he’d have been better giving Benitez what he wanted and a bit more freedom in the transfer market.

 

Ashley doesn't want to know about the minutiae. He just wants to make a profit with as little risk and personal input as possible. Why would he care about this player'r attributes or potential when he doesn't really give a shit?

 

 

[Guest]

He must give a shit that he’s spent £120m and the players signed are unlikely to make him any money back?

[Keggy_Keagal]

It's all clickbait with Edwards. His journalism/content isn't good enough to generate the traffic required like other journalists so he's resorted to being  the Katie Hopkins of North East correspondents. Starve him of oxygen and let him suffocate in the vacuum. 

[Happinesstan]

1 minute ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

It's all clickbait with Edwards. His journalism/content isn't good enough to generate the traffic required like other journalists so he's resorted to being  the Katie Hopkins of North East correspondents. Starve him of oxygen and let him suffocate in the vacuum. 

Exactly. So posting him on here s the response he's looking for.

Don't do it. Same with all of the pricks out there.

[HaydnNUFC]

My self imposed exile didn’t last long need to vent about how shit it all is.

 

The only benchmark I’m going to be comparing Bruce and his band of merry bell ends on the coaching staff to for the most part is his first season; 2019-20, as I’m a firm believer that football with full grounds in and lockdown football are two completely different sports. Other teams have stepped up in intensity and speed in moving the ball and in their press. We haven’t. We’ve seen yesterday’s performance all the time last season, from just the top of my head, Brighton (h), Man Utd (h), Chelsea (h), Fulham (h), Leeds (h), Arsenal (h). All home games where we looked petrified of leaving our own third against sides that didn’t even deserve that kind of respect, so the only outlet is hoofing it straight back to the opposition and they were the performances that would have seen the reaction from the crowd yesterday.

 

This 5-3-1-1 that we’re playing is fucking terrible. It’s got wingers playing as wing backs in a system that always enables a numerical advantage to the opposition in wide areas via an overlapping full back which allows any team playing 4 at the back with attackers out wide crossing opportunities almost at will. In turn, our wing backs can’t get forward to create width of our own because they’re always back defending due to there being no outlet whatsoever other than punts up to ASM or Wilson so turnovers of possession happen almost all the time when we get the ball back. It’s got a number 10 with a slight frame who can’t defend playing in centre midfield and a very good winger playing almost like a fucking target man due to long balls being the only out ball, so our 18 yard line is always under pressure. The 3 man midfield almost as deep as the back 5 so there are absolutely zero options in the middle going forward. The formation is pretty much self fucking harm.

 

In 2019-20 we played a back 5 all season other than away at Leicester (went down to 10 men and lost 5-0) and the last 3 games before the first lockdown; Burnley (h) which was a 0-0 draw, 2-3 win at West Brom in the FA Cup and 0-1 win at Southampton. Still we were defensively solid in 2019-20 pre COVID, especially at home. I’ve wondered whether that was defensive tendencies instilled by Benitez were yet to wear off or simply the formation played. We played 5-2-3 or 5-4-1 with ASM and Almiron out wide; that meant the numerical advantage the opposition can get in wide areas didn’t exist then as they came back and helped Manquillo and Dummett/Ritchie with the overlapping full backs of the opposition, plus because of ASM and Almiron wide with wing backs we had an out ball. Now that’s gone.

 

We can easily go 4-2-3-1; Woodman, Manquillo, Lascelles/Fernandez, Schar, Lewis, Willock, Hayden/Shelvey, Murphy/Fraser, Almiron, ASM, Wilson. Players in their actual positions. Options going forward and (relative) protection for full backs and the centre halves. Almiron in his position which has seen his best games for us; West Brom away in the cup, Southampton at home last season.

 

Another thing I have to say about us under Bruce is his game management is absolutely shocking. Taking the lead in the 90th minute and not winning is absolutely scandalous. Even games in the past; Leicester away, we were 0-4 up with 10 minutes left, he takes Willock and ASM off and it stripped us of our engine and pacy outlet and we end up pretty much fucking hanging on. West Brom away in the cup, Almiron gets 2 goals and plays a key part in our 3rd, Bruce takes him off, West Brom score 2 and we’re hanging on at the end again! West Ham, 2-0 up at HT, them down to 10 and guess what? We let them fucking equalise before Willock bailed us out. Absolutely shit. Then he’ll go like ‘ah it wouldn’t be Newcastle if it wasn’t dramatic’ or ‘this job should come with a health warning’. No, Steve. It’s your own tactical ineptitude you gormless cunt.

 

He has to change things again as he’s still playing lockdown football and he won’t last this whole season whilst trying to do so imo. Admittedly probably when it’s too late, but still.

[GWN]

1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said:

My self imposed exile didn’t last long need to vent about how shit it all is.

 

The only benchmark I’m going to be comparing Bruce and his band of merry bell ends on the coaching staff to for the most part is his first season; 2019-20, as I’m a firm believer that football with full grounds in and lockdown football are two completely different sports. Other teams have stepped up in intensity and speed in moving the ball and in their press. We haven’t. We’ve seen yesterday’s performance all the time last season, from just the top of my head, Brighton (h), Man Utd (h), Chelsea (h), Fulham (h), Leeds (h), Arsenal (h). All home games where we looked petrified of leaving our own third against sides that didn’t even deserve that kind of respect, so the only outlet is hoofing it straight back to the opposition and they were the performances that would have seen the reaction from the crowd yesterday.

 

This 5-3-1-1 that we’re playing is fucking terrible. It’s got wingers playing as wing backs in a system that always enables a numerical advantage to the opposition in wide areas via an overlapping full back which allows any team playing 4 at the back with attackers out wide crossing opportunities almost at will. In turn, our wing backs can’t get forward to create width of our own because they’re always back defending due to there being no outlet whatsoever other than punts up to ASM or Wilson so turnovers of possession happen almost all the time when we get the ball back. It’s got a number 10 with a slight frame who can’t defend playing in centre midfield and a very good winger playing almost like a fucking target man due to long balls being the only out ball, so our 18 yard line is always under pressure. The 3 man midfield almost as deep as the back 5 so there are absolutely zero options in the middle going forward. The formation is pretty much self fucking harm.

 

In 2019-20 we played a back 5 all season other than away at Leicester (went down to 10 men and lost 5-0) and the last 3 games before the first lockdown; Burnley (h) which was a 0-0 draw, 2-3 win at West Brom in the FA Cup and 0-1 win at Southampton. Still we were defensively solid in 2019-20 pre COVID, especially at home. I’ve wondered whether that was defensive tendencies instilled by Benitez were yet to wear off or simply the formation played. We played 5-2-3 or 5-4-1 with ASM and Almiron out wide; that meant the numerical advantage the opposition can get in wide areas didn’t exist then as they came back and helped Manquillo and Dummett/Ritchie with the overlapping full backs of the opposition, plus because of ASM and Almiron wide with wing backs we had an out ball. Now that’s gone.

 

We can easily go 4-2-3-1; Woodman, Manquillo, Lascelles/Fernandez, Schar, Lewis, Willock, Hayden/Shelvey, Murphy/Fraser, Almiron, ASM, Wilson. Players in their actual positions. Options going forward and (relative) protection for full backs and the centre halves. Almiron in his position which has seen his best games for us; West Brom away in the cup, Southampton at home last season.

 

Another thing I have to say about us under Bruce is his game management is absolutely shocking. Taking the lead in the 90th minute and not winning is absolutely scandalous. Even games in the past; Leicester away, we were 0-4 up with 10 minutes left, he takes Willock and ASM off and it stripped us of our engine and pacy outlet and we end up pretty much fucking hanging on. West Brom away in the cup, Almiron gets 2 goals and plays a key part in our 3rd, Bruce takes him off, West Brom score 2 and we’re hanging on at the end again! West Ham, 2-0 up at HT, them down to 10 and guess what? We let them fucking equalise before Willock bailed us out. Absolutely shit. Then he’ll go like ‘ah it wouldn’t be Newcastle if it wasn’t dramatic’ or ‘this job should come with a health warning’. No, Steve. It’s your own tactical ineptitude you gormless cunt.

 

He has to change things again as he’s still playing lockdown football and he won’t last this whole season whilst trying to do so imo. Admittedly probably when it’s too late, but still.

 

 

Fucking glorious 

[joeyt]

 

 

 

 

[bigfella]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

 

 

 

 

Must be a cold day in hell, I'm finding myself agreeing with something written in the Daily Mail.

[Ben]

TBF Bruce and Hope detest each other

[nbthree3]

Hope's probably the best local journalist we have, usually a lone figure in the backdrop of happy campers at the club peddling what the hierarchy would want to hear. He doesn't shy away from criticising -  "you calling me a liar?" and had a row with McClaren too "I'm not the problem, you are Steve"