Mole_Toonfan Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We improved a lot between the new signings and before today.... we only had 2 losses in 10 games in all competitions with 6 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats. I find it staggering to suggest otherwise, we was bad today but again we had Coloccini, Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Krul all missing and Debuchy got injured at the beginning and besides the reason we lost was referee decisions. You can say that is what squads are for but there are very few teams who could deal without that level of quality and still perform to a high standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Stu and Inochi never been off 1 aye? Dummies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 to put a 1 in perspective we have 4 away games left, you can literally not bank on a single point from any of those games, though we might sneak something somewhere fulham, mackems, liverpool & arsenal at home are the other 4 games - how many do people realistically think we'll get from them, 6 points? suppose that'd be us safe if so the point of this post however is the hypothetical once again....HBA ain't coming back, doesn't look like we can rely on cabaye at the moment so it's evidently going to be down to sissoko to carry us and he's already looking like he's starting to feel the strain of being pardews only plan, debuchy & haidara now injured to add to colo...we've already seen that pardew can't handle injuries and suspensions, apparently he's just a passive bystander who should bear no responsibility when his first 11 aren't playing lose to man city and fulham and it gets as nervy as fuck going into the derby imo i don't think we'll go down, the wins bought by the new players in jan/feb have probably just seen to that, but as has been said this season has been little short of a disgrace on the pitch tbh...i've said in the past pardew deserves another year for continuities sake but really, does he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Conceding late in games as opposed to grinding out dull but extremely valuable points is killing us. The Swansea game and now Wigan. Handball or no handball you just shouldn't be conceding in a game like that in the 89th minute ffs. Looks like the Fulham game is emerging as another must win game because I can't see us getting anything at City. Boy we do like to make things difficult for ourselves, christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 to put a 1 in perspective we have 4 away games left, you can literally not bank on a single point from any of those games, though we might sneak something somewhere fulham, mackems, liverpool & arsenal at home are the other 4 games - how many do people realistically think we'll get from them, 6 points? suppose that'd be us safe if so the point of this post however is the hypothetical once again....HBA ain't coming back, doesn't look like we can rely on cabaye at the moment so it's evidently going to be down to sissoko to carry us and he's already looking like he's starting to feel the strain of being pardews only plan, debuchy & haidara now injured to add to colo...we've already seen that pardew can't handle injuries and suspensions, apparently he's just a passive bystander who should bear no responsibility when his first 11 aren't playing lose to man city and fulham and it gets as nervy as fuck going into the derby imo i don't think we'll go down, the wins bought by the new players in jan/feb have probably just seen to that, but as has been said this season has been little short of a disgrace on the pitch tbh...i've said in the past pardew deserves another year for continuities sake but really, does he? Does anybody have any doubt that we'd have gone down if we hadn't signed them? For me it's a no-brainer, so then you have to ask yourself, at the start of the season, if you'd been told who was injured and told you'd go down, would anybody have said the manager deserved to keep his job in that scenario? I think some people have painted themselves into a corner and now feel they'll look stupid by turning and saying the manager should go. That's the only explanation I can offer for those prepared to defend what has been an utter car crash of a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Fulham and Mackems are must win games. That will give us 39 which this season might be enough. I'd rather we got 40-42 which would be truly safe. It's gonna be close if we lose one of those two home games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Fulham and Mackems are must win games. That will give us 39 which this season might be enough. I'd rather we got 40-42 which would be truly safe. It's gonna be close if we lose one of those two home games. I think it'll be less than 39 mate, 37 or 38 will probably do it. Agree about the next two home games though, especially Fulham and if we were to lose that game we really are in troubling if you assume we're coming off a defeat to City. Wouldn't be surprised if we draw against the Mackems in a nervy affair as s*** as they are but I think we'll beat Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The bookies still have us as a 20/1 shot, if some of you really are thinking it's a decent possibility you probably want to be smashing into that. The mackems are as low as 7/2 now - shocking form and tricky fixtures looking like a potent cocktail.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Funny that given we're only a few points apart. I suppose with a few games to go fixtures, form and the like are quite telling. I rage-bet on us at 4/1 or 5/1 a while back before we signed Debuchy, Gouff & Co. - think they'd have paid out already had we not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 For us to get relegated it would require teams who have been absolutely shite all season completely turning that around, plus as mole pointed out despite yesterdays result we have been in very good form since the new signings came in. Someone posted a graphic yesterday where are form was in the top 6. Let's not get carried away with one poor result where we have every right to feel aggrieved because of some really poor decisions that have gone against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I personally think we will be fine, we have shown enough since the new lads have came in, to think that we are pretty much safe. Before yesterdays game, we were on good form, we had only lost 2 in 10 including Europa League games, and as others have said there are teams who have been much worse then us this season. At-least now with the new players we have back-up when players get injured and don't have to rely on youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 For us to get relegated it would require teams who have been absolutely s**** all season completely turning that around, plus as mole pointed out despite yesterdays result we have been in very good form since the new signings came in. Someone posted a graphic yesterday where are form was in the top 6. Let's not get carried away with one poor result where we have every right to feel aggrieved because of some really poor decisions that have gone against us. The most worrying thing for me is that in the immediate future, its likely it'll be back to 3 points. We've got City away and Wigan have Norwich at home. You'd expect City and Wigan wins (of course you never know). Then its the two two home games against Fulham and the Mackems. I cant see us losing both, if we take 4 points out of those two it should be enough to carry us to the end of the season. Still has potential to be very nervy though. Need to get players back fit again too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not sure how it requires a complete turnaround from anyone other than Wigan, who always do it. Villa, Saints, mackems are all within three points of us. Obviously a couple of wins will probably see us safe but given the difficulty we have in beating anyone away, and anyone at home that isn't shit (Chelsea the exception), I can't say I'm 100% confident in getting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Stu and Inochi never been off 1 aye? Dummies Nope, and I'm still not. I won't resort to pathetic digs with playground insults either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We have a tough, tough fixture at City next but Southampton have Chelsea at home, Villa Liverpool at home, Wigan play Norwich so one or both will drop points and QPR go to Fulham. Mackems have Man U. Unless there's some really extraordinary results we shouldn't be drawn further into it assuming ofcourse we lose at City. This 2 week break might not be a bad time to take stock and re-charge the batteries for some of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed. Three points going into Fulham is terrifying. This in-out thing will keep happening as long as our away form is so disgusting. We simply cannot pull away because for every home win is a fairly sure defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Braindead mackems in the pub celebrating their winner yesterday. Had to spell it out to them that it was a terrible result for them. One said 'rather go down than want you lot to get anything'. Fucking morons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed. Three points going into Fulham is terrifying. This in-out thing will keep happening as long as our away form is so disgusting. We simply cannot pull away because for every home win is a fairly sure defeat. Home games against left against Fulham, Mackems, Liverpool and Arsenal. Lot of pressure on that Fulham game (as there was earlier in the season in our home matches against Wigan and QPR). It's the one that is sandwiched between our quarter-final legs too, sadly. Man City, QPR, West Brom and West Ham away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Staying on a 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Our goal difference is quite a bit better, thats essentially an extra point on the teams in the bottom 3 and Villa. An avoidance of a pasting at City would be nice aswell. The two home games after are huge. If we can't muster 6 points from a remaining 8 games then we deserve to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Stu and Inochi never been off 1 aye? Dummies Nope, and I'm still not. I won't resort to pathetic digs with playground insults either. No need to be so sensitive precious. Sorry to point it out but being on a 1 at this stage of the season is simply ignoring the reality around you. If I recall correctly one of the main reasons you were sure we would stay up was the influx of players and return of Cabaye & HBA. Those reasons are now looking shaky as fuck, as is our form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Stu and Inochi never been off 1 aye? Dummies Nope, and I'm still not. I won't resort to pathetic digs with playground insults either. No need to be so sensitive precious. Sorry to point it out but being on a 1 at this stage of the season is simply ignoring the reality around you. If I recall correctly one of the main reasons you were sure we would stay up was the influx of players and return of Cabaye & HBA. Those reasons are now looking shaky as fuck, as is our form Our form isn't shaky as fuck Definitely a 1, we're fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed. Three points going into Fulham is terrifying. This in-out thing will keep happening as long as our away form is so disgusting. We simply cannot pull away because for every home win is a fairly sure defeat. Home games against left against Fulham, Mackems, Liverpool and Arsenal. Lot of pressure on that Fulham game (as there was earlier in the season in our home matches against Wigan and QPR). It's the one that is sandwiched between our quarter-final legs too, sadly. Man City, QPR, West Brom and West Ham away. I reckon we'll get an away win, plus 5pts at home. A very realistic scenario, which puts us on 41 and finishing 13th/14th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Stu and Inochi never been off 1 aye? Dummies Nope, and I'm still not. I won't resort to pathetic digs with playground insults either. No need to be so sensitive precious. Sorry to point it out but being on a 1 at this stage of the season is simply ignoring the reality around you. If I recall correctly one of the main reasons you were sure we would stay up was the influx of players and return of Cabaye & HBA. Those reasons are now looking shaky as fuck, as is our form Our form is not 'shaky as fuck', at all. I'm not ignoring the reality of the situation, I'm simply not reverting to hysterical mode based on a massively unfair defeat. If I was at a '1' during our worst form of the season, I'm hardly likely to rethink that when we're six points (plus goal difference) away from the drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Fulham and Mackems are must win games. That will give us 39 which this season might be enough. I'd rather we got 40-42 which would be truly safe. It's gonna be close if we lose one of those two home games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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