Hhtoon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: Why do you think they've all wasted their time with all these interviews / press statements if it's going to go through regardless? Why are the PL wasting their time with all of these delays if they're going to win arbitration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, gdm said: Is anyone apart from manor park still confident? I was hoping some sort of agreement could be made but that’s looking unlikely and AS & co do seem pretty concerned about arbitration over last few days. genuine question btw I'm confident, albeit it quietly. One of the main reasons is the PL trying their best to drag it out, even the legal matters. This indicates to me that its their only hope, if they had everything needed to lawfully stop it, then I think it would have been all over by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I think its more the case that they, just like NUFC, are not 100% certain that they will win. So they drag it out in an effort to demoralise the buyers in the hope that they simply withdraw permanently. They are just playing as dirty as they possibly can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: I want this takeover to happen like many, however you can’t possibly know how arbitration or even CAT will go. Analysis of the available information that we have (and I wish we had more) and awareness of the qualities of the people involved on BOTH sides of the dispute (we know the EPL are not very bright, though they are devious) logically points towards the success of our legal action. Corruption NEEDS to be exposed, and I am sure that it will be. Edited July 8, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamish Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, manorpark said: Mmm, yes I do actually !! Fuck off man, so tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ed210 said: well if you are 100% certain the lawyers would be 100% certain and the case would have already been settled out of court. Still the most likely outcome, the last few days pressure on the EPL will be having an impact. It is likely to be very sudden, when it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Off topic but last nights scenes of fans celebrating and enjoying winning makes me want this takeover even more so I can start supporting us again properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Beamish said: Fuck off man, so tedious. Are you a Newcastle United supporter, or just a 'paid critic' of some sort? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Wandy said: I think its more the case that they, just like NUFC, are not 100% certain that they will win. So they drag it out in an effort to demoralise the buyers in the hope that they simply withdraw permanently. They are just playing as dirty as they possibly can. But that's the thing, the PL are the ones making the takeover decision and abiding by their own rules that they set out. If they aren't 100% confident in their own decisions then that's a serious problem for them. The buyers are 100% confident that they've done everything by the book, yet the PL can't find a valid reason to reject it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Beamish said: Fuck off man, so tedious. Aye, please stop quoting him It's fuckin pathetic now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, gdm said: Is anyone apart from manor park still confident? I was hoping some sort of agreement could be made but that’s looking unlikely and AS & co do seem pretty concerned about arbitration over last few days. genuine question btw I feel quite confident about it. It seems the Premier Leagues only tactic is to not give an answer either way, letting it just sit and stagnate. Personally, I feel they are doing this because they know they can’t reject it, so this stalling tactic is the next best thing. Arbitration means there is going to be a decision either way now, which will get us beyond this ridiculous state of purgatory. Edited July 8, 2021 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: But that's the thing, the PL are the ones making the takeover decision and abiding by their own rules that they set out. If they aren't 100% confident in their own decisions then that's a serious problem for them. The buyers are 100% confident that they've done everything by the book, yet the PL can't find a valid reason to reject it. The PL are arguing that the ODT got paused and they couldn't even get to the point where they had to make a decision, as they didn't agree with the Saudis' statement that their government will NOT be a shadow director. Arbitration is going to answer that question. The CAT case, if it goes ahead, will determine if the PL deliberately tried to cook up a situation, in conjunction with other parties, where the aim was to block the buyers from ever getting the takeover through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I'm probably repeating myself and others so apologies but once arbitration starts do we have an estimate for how long it'll be before we get a resolution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, manorpark said: Are you a Newcastle United supporter, or just a 'paid critic' of some sort? If the takeover doesn't happen are you going to hang around here and take your medicine? Or are you going to flounce off in the huff like you did last summer? And please, don't merely answer with your usual "IT WILL HAPPEN" bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, mrmojorisin75 said: I'm probably repeating myself and others so apologies but once arbitration starts do we have an estimate for how long it'll be before we get a resolution? I have read elsewhere that the process only takes a few days. A week at the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: I'm probably repeating myself and others so apologies but once arbitration starts do we have an estimate for how long it'll be before we get a resolution? Not sure at all. I know Staveley said she is no part of the arbitration but I think she is expecting the long haul when she said “how it goes over the next few months” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, manorpark said: The current legal actions are totally different to the above action, and I know that we will win them. Last I’m bothering with you but needs to be said. Stop this. You know fuck all. Even in staveley’s interview she concedes the possibility they will lose arbitration and says “at some point it will be out of our control and that will be a great shame” positivity is fine but stop going on like you know for certain we will win it. I’d say the way AS is talking the cards are stacked in PL’s favour if anything Edited July 8, 2021 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wandy said: The PL are arguing that the ODT got paused and they couldn't even get to the point where they had to make a decision, as they didn't agree with the Saudis' statement that their government will NOT be a shadow director. Arbitration is going to answer that question. The CAT case, if it goes ahead, will determine if the PL deliberately tried to cook up a situation, in conjunction with other parties, where the aim was to block the buyers from ever getting the takeover through. And that contradicts their own rules right, which says they should reject the bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, mrmojorisin75 said: And that contradicts their own rules right, which says they should reject the bid. I'm not sure if it specifically says that they should. They may have worded it loosely to wangle themselves out of it. Best ask someone like @Jackie Broon about that. If it does, then that's another issue that the CAT will deal with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: And that contradicts their own rules right, which says they should reject the bid. I think this is why they are gunning so hard for openness and transparency, as something somewhere down the line just doesn’t sit right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wandy said: I'm not sure if it specifically says that they should. They may have worded it loosely to wangle themselves out of it. Best ask someone like @Jackie Broon about that. If it does, then that's another issue that the CAT will deal with. Yeah I think that's right thinking back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Wandy said: If the takeover doesn't happen are you going to hang around here and take your medicine? Or are you going to flounce off in the huff like you did last summer? And please, don't merely answer with your usual "IT WILL HAPPEN" bollocks. I'm always here and I intend to always be here. Out club is greater than all of us, and certainly a lot greater than all of the mindless irrational comments directed at someone who simply believes that our Takeover is inevitable, which (logically) it is !! Sorry . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 This has also always been insinuated, I mean why would you refuse further evidence when you have basically said you can’t come to a decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: This has also always been insinuated, I mean why would you refuse further evidence when you have basically said you can’t come to a decision. That is surely another issue that would be handled by the CAT then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 PIF clearly isn't separate from the state, so I guess we're hoping one set of bullshit merchants in the form of the PL accepts the bullshit excuse of another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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