nbthree3 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 A Saudi Arabian airline is one of the frontrunners to become Newcastle's new sponsor after a favoured option of having the Crown Prince's "Vision 2030" project emblazoned on shirts was scuppered. Legally-binding assurances to the Premier League around no state involvement at the club and now a vote from rivals to clampdown on owner sponsors has made up the new owners' minds. Prior to the initial takeover approach collapsing a year ago, discussions had taken place around giving significant prominence to Vision 2030, the Mohammed bin Salman-led plan to diversify Saudi's economy away from oil. However, the prospect of advertising such an explicit connection to Saudi's controversial leadership had been fading even prior to a Premier League vote on Monday to temporarily ban owner-funded deals. Now it is two other long-term options - the Saudia airline or potentially a Saudi-based new tour operator - that are being earmarked by insiders as the most likely next shirt and stadium brands. There is confidence within Newcastle that bringing in a Saudi-based corporate sponsor will not be a long-term problem despite hostility from club rivals at a meeting this week. (from article linked above) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, nbthree3 said: A Saudi Arabian airline is one of the frontrunners to become Newcastle's new sponsor after a favoured option of having the Crown Prince's "Vision 2030" project emblazoned on shirts was scuppered. Legally-binding assurances to the Premier League around no state involvement at the club and now a vote from rivals to clampdown on owner sponsors has made up the new owners' minds. Prior to the initial takeover approach collapsing a year ago, discussions had taken place around giving significant prominence to Vision 2030, the Mohammed bin Salman-led plan to diversify Saudi's economy away from oil. However, the prospect of advertising such an explicit connection to Saudi's controversial leadership had been fading even prior to a Premier League vote on Monday to temporarily ban owner-funded deals. Now it is two other long-term options - the Saudia airline or potentially a Saudi-based new tour operator - that are being earmarked by insiders as the most likely next shirt and stadium brands. There is confidence within Newcastle that bringing in a Saudi-based corporate sponsor will not be a long-term problem despite hostility from club rivals at a meeting this week. (from article linked above) Just do what Ashley did, not pay a penny for the sponsorship… call it charity or something! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Pixelphish said: Disney on the shirt would be mint Was it Valencia that used to have different movies on their shirts as sponsors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 We should get MBS to sponsor us directly, now it's proven he's nothing to do with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, HTT II said: Just do what Ashley did, not pay a penny for the sponsorship… call it charity or something! Was wondering why this wouldn't work myself, but I don't really understand the first thing about FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, OpenC said: Was wondering why this wouldn't work myself, but I don't really understand the first thing about FFP Because the idea of paying for sponsorship is to get money into the club to spend. If they didn't charge they'd not be getting the money in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nobody said: Was it Valencia that used to have different movies on their shirts as sponsors? Atletico Madrid I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OpenC said: Was wondering why this wouldn't work myself, but I don't really understand the first thing about FFP Nor do they or anyone else, it’s just football’s way of pretending they care about clubs not going above and beyond their means financially to the detriment of others, unless it’s to the detriment of themselves over others they don’t like/want/care about. It’s all complete and utter bullshit and was proved by Man City being allowed back into the CL recently, paltry fines and Chelsea’s one year transfer embargo. The minute any half decent lawyer challenges this bogus shit, nowt would stand up or stick. It’s nothing but an empty threat mainly to keep the smaller little insignificant clubs in check, but guess what, we are the big boys in Toon now and they fucking hate it. Edited October 19, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sima said: Atletico Madrid I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Because the idea of paying for sponsorship is to get money into the club to spend. If they didn't charge they'd not be getting the money in Well I understand that much I just wonder if there's a real disadvantage to a less lucrative sponsor (but still presumably loads better than our current incumbents) but just let them advertise their primary but maybe banned one for nowt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, HTT II said: Nor do they or anyone else, it’s just football’s way of pretending they care about clubs not going above and beyond their means financially to the detriment of others, unless it’s to the detriment of others they don’t like/want/care about. It’s all complete and utter bull shit and was proved by Man City being allowed back into the CL, the minute any half decent lawyer challenges this bogus shit, nowt would stand up or stick. It’s nothing but an empty threat mainly to keep the smaller little insignificant clubs in check, but guess what, we are the big boys in Toon now and they fucking hate it. As @Jackie Broon said earlier, they should be careful what they wish for as there are lawyers who think that FFP could go if a legal challenge was mounted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Looks like we're going Saudia Love this. A nice big sponsorship deal, not linked to our owners, worth multi millions of pounds. That'll get the other 19 clubs thinking of a new rule they'll have to vote in favour of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I know the idea was seemingly to have 'Vision 2030' as the prominent club/shirt sponsor, and presumably be highly paid for it, but can we not just have that as a sleeve sponsor or something, and just be paid the 'market rate' for that, and then be paid our 'main' sponsors fee from the airline or whatever for the front of shirt / stadium name? Edited October 19, 2021 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, TK-421 said: I know the idea was seemingly to have 'Vision 2030' as the prominent shoirt sponsor, and presumabley by highly paid for it, but can we not just have that as a sleeve sponsor or something, and just be poaid the 'market rate' for that, and then be paid our 'main' sponsors fee from the airline or whatever for the front of shirt / stadium name? Aye, that's what I meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Love this. A nice big sponsorship deal, not linked to our owners, worth multi millions of pounds. That'll get the other 19 clubs thinking of a new rule they'll have to vote in favour of. They'll ban airline sponsors next Edited October 19, 2021 by Peppe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, OpenC said: Well I understand that much I just wonder if there's a real disadvantage to a less lucrative sponsor (but still presumably loads better than our current incumbents) but just let them advertise their primary but maybe banned one for nowt We should announce UNICEF as our new sponsor, with all earnings going to charity. Then launch "Newcastle TV" which gets a shocking number of subscriptions all across the Emirates for a huge amount of income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I worry that this is all an attempt to draw the KSA into interfering with this so the EPL can argue the legal assurances are inadequate and so they will expel us from the EPL or deduct points that ensure we get relegated and are then refused promotion back into the EPL whilst the PIF hold majority ownership!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I wonder how they decide what is a fair amount for spo sponsorship ? I remember reading about Man Utd having a deal which I think was more than our main sponsors at the time purely to be associated with a Thai tyre brand or some such. Ie the tyre makers gave Man utd million s just to use their crest etc officially in Thailand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Peppe said: They'll ban airline sponsors next Without a doubt, think about all them the poor gambling sponsors who could miss out if they allowed that. Mind Man City and Arsenal will still be allowed to fly high! Edited October 19, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: We should announce UNICEF as our new sponsor, with all earnings going to charity. Then launch "Newcastle TV" which gets a shocking number of subscriptions all across the Emirates for a huge amount of income. Aye, wonder how much Amnesty Int'l will pay to sponsor us?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, TK-421 said: Aye, wonder how much Amnesty Int'l will pay to sponsor us?? They’d kill to be associated with our club in some official capacity once we take off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ankles Bennett said: I worry that this is all an attempt to draw the KSA into interfering with this so the EPL can argue the legal assurances are inadequate and so they will expel us from the EPL or deduct points that ensure we get relegated and are then refused promotion back into the EPL whilst the PIF hold majority ownership!! You'd have to think the ownership will know not to fuck with that given the cost. But can just see us winning our first trophy in generations then being stripped of it. Edited October 19, 2021 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 SABIC would be possible too. Said last night I don't think Aramco is because of Yasir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said: You'd have to think the ownership will know not to fuck with that giving the cost. But can just see us winning our first trophy in generations then being stripped of it. That would just be so us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: SABIC would be possible too. Said last night I don't think Aramco is because of Yasir. Sure I read SABIC is a subsidiary of Aramco, so the PL 18 would probably try and veto that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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