TRon Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Still really rankles with me that Ashley sold off the land behind St James and that might have affected our expansion plans. Even if it didn't, it was an asset which he probably creamed off for himself, I doubt the club got the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Dan Ashworth: “It's a really difficult job, but it is possible. We have no God-given right, within one or two transfer windows, to go, 'Bang, we should be competing with the top four'. But things do happen in football that are slightly strange. Leicester won the Premier League at 5,000-1.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11313355/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Big-Six-allies-Newcastle-Forest-foolish-look.html A closed shop is not looking for trade. And the Big Six are not looking to become seven any time soon either. Certainly not eight. So, if the word from recent Premier League meetings is to be believed, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest are what are known as useful idiots. It is suggested both are cosying up to the elite cabal, the Super League clubs who not so long ago were looking to stampede over the horizon, destroying the Premier League in the process, and leaving the clubs who remained choking on their dust. Newcastle and Forest have big ambitions and see the six as their natural allies. If this is true, they are even more foolish than they look. Newcastle are faring better but if they think they are any more welcome in the ranks of the elite than among the disgruntled 14, they are wrong. The likes of Tottenham and Arsenal fear their rise as much as West Ham and Everton, and the only reason Manchester City abstained on rules that appeared to target Newcastle’s ability to raise commercial revenue from Saudi enterprises is they believe it is as much an attack on their links to businesses in Abu Dhabi. If Newcastle want to know the true nature of the six, ask City, the last members through the door. City are in because, without them, without Pep Guardiola, Erling Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne, the competition would lose some of its allure. Yet just about every regulatory move made by the elite clubs of England and Europe in the last decade has been designed to curb City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11313355/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Big-Six-allies-Newcastle-Forest-foolish-look.html A closed shop is not looking for trade. And the Big Six are not looking to become seven any time soon either. Certainly not eight. So, if the word from recent Premier League meetings is to be believed, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest are what are known as useful idiots. It is suggested both are cosying up to the elite cabal, the Super League clubs who not so long ago were looking to stampede over the horizon, destroying the Premier League in the process, and leaving the clubs who remained choking on their dust. Newcastle and Forest have big ambitions and see the six as their natural allies. If this is true, they are even more foolish than they look. Newcastle are faring better but if they think they are any more welcome in the ranks of the elite than among the disgruntled 14, they are wrong. The likes of Tottenham and Arsenal fear their rise as much as West Ham and Everton, and the only reason Manchester City abstained on rules that appeared to target Newcastle’s ability to raise commercial revenue from Saudi enterprises is they believe it is as much an attack on their links to businesses in Abu Dhabi. If Newcastle want to know the true nature of the six, ask City, the last members through the door. City are in because, without them, without Pep Guardiola, Erling Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne, the competition would lose some of its allure. Yet just about every regulatory move made by the elite clubs of England and Europe in the last decade has been designed to curb City. While much of that is true, especially the last bit, we've seen how the money gets round it. All it does is delays the inevitable. Edited October 13, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11313355/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Big-Six-allies-Newcastle-Forest-foolish-look.html A closed shop is not looking for trade. And the Big Six are not looking to become seven any time soon either. Certainly not eight. So, if the word from recent Premier League meetings is to be believed, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest are what are known as useful idiots. It is suggested both are cosying up to the elite cabal, the Super League clubs who not so long ago were looking to stampede over the horizon, destroying the Premier League in the process, and leaving the clubs who remained choking on their dust. Newcastle and Forest have big ambitions and see the six as their natural allies. If this is true, they are even more foolish than they look. Newcastle are faring better but if they think they are any more welcome in the ranks of the elite than among the disgruntled 14, they are wrong. The likes of Tottenham and Arsenal fear their rise as much as West Ham and Everton, and the only reason Manchester City abstained on rules that appeared to target Newcastle’s ability to raise commercial revenue from Saudi enterprises is they believe it is as much an attack on their links to businesses in Abu Dhabi. If Newcastle want to know the true nature of the six, ask City, the last members through the door. City are in because, without them, without Pep Guardiola, Erling Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne, the competition would lose some of its allure. Yet just about every regulatory move made by the elite clubs of England and Europe in the last decade has been designed to curb City. Must have been on the beer when he fired that together. Complete shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, madras said: While much of that is true, especially the last bit, we've seen how the money gets round it. All it does is delays the inevitable. Aye, I'd guess we're likely to push Spurs out of the "Top 6 elite" in the coming years. Kane and Son are 29 and 30 respectively, unfortunately for Spurs, and when they start fading in the next few years, I can't see them replacing them with that sort of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 hours ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11313355/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Big-Six-allies-Newcastle-Forest-foolish-look.html A closed shop is not looking for trade. And the Big Six are not looking to become seven any time soon either. Certainly not eight. So, if the word from recent Premier League meetings is to be believed, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest are what are known as useful idiots. It is suggested both are cosying up to the elite cabal, the Super League clubs who not so long ago were looking to stampede over the horizon, destroying the Premier League in the process, and leaving the clubs who remained choking on their dust. Newcastle and Forest have big ambitions and see the six as their natural allies. If this is true, they are even more foolish than they look. Newcastle are faring better but if they think they are any more welcome in the ranks of the elite than among the disgruntled 14, they are wrong. The likes of Tottenham and Arsenal fear their rise as much as West Ham and Everton, and the only reason Manchester City abstained on rules that appeared to target Newcastle’s ability to raise commercial revenue from Saudi enterprises is they believe it is as much an attack on their links to businesses in Abu Dhabi. If Newcastle want to know the true nature of the six, ask City, the last members through the door. City are in because, without them, without Pep Guardiola, Erling Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne, the competition would lose some of its allure. Yet just about every regulatory move made by the elite clubs of England and Europe in the last decade has been designed to curb City. I think this is why the club has hired their own lawyer. Can’t wait to fuck over the so called big 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I'd be happy that they don't want us there to be honest, makes it all the better when we (hopefully) gatecrash their little party and become an annoyance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 22:55, Nobody said: We've got one of the best badges in England though (the best in the PL according to my Mrs who doesn't give two shits about football and wouldn't just say that to be nice to me), absolutely no need to change it. Would be gutted if we did change it tbh. As for SJP, I'd much, much rather keep the name, but if it's a deal worth doing, then I wouldn't be too gutted to see it change. SJP needs to still be there mind, and it must never be ruined with tacky shite plastered all over it like our previous owner did with it. best in football tbh. It’s really, really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Martin Samuel is a really odd bloke. He has this very strange writing style that just reads like he's drunkenly vomiting words onto the page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Anyone seen that we've been approached to do Amazon's all or nothing series? For season 23/24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Lish007 said: Anyone seen that we've been approached to do Amazon's all or nothing series? For season 23/24 I hope we say no tbh - nowt good usually comes from these sort of things (this doesn't count comedies such as Premier Pashuns and Sunlun Til I Die) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I hope we say no tbh - nowt good usually comes from these sort of things (this doesn't count comedies such as Premier Pashuns and Sunlun Til I Die) I had the final episode of Premier Passions on my "comedy" 3hr VHS tape. 1hr of Bill Hicks, 30mins Will Durst, the University challenge episode of The Young Ones and Sunderlands relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 That username, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, madras said: I had the final episode of Premier Passions on my "comedy" 3hr VHS tape. 1hr of Bill Hicks, 30mins Will Durst, the University challenge episode of The Young Ones and Sunderlands relegation. Classics one and all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Keegans Export said: Martin Samuel is a really odd bloke. He has this very strange writing style that just reads like he's drunkenly vomiting words onto the page. He probably is. Bloke is unhinged. His patter about Max Verstappen is almost as bad as about NUFC. Thoroughly loath the guy, massive piece of scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Yorkie said: That username, man. Haha sorry mate. Its been my name for everything (email etc) since I was a wee lass! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I hope we say no tbh - nowt good usually comes from these sort of things (this doesn't count comedies such as Premier Pashuns and Sunlun Til I Die) Me too, just keep thinking all the trade secrets would be revealed. And whenever you put a camera in someone's face, something always changes. Leave out me thinks. Edited October 14, 2022 by Lish007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Just so I'm clear... Eales/Ashworth never actually said anything specific about a stadium name sponsor, Saudi linked sponsors or indeed expanding the stadium, right? From what I heard, Eales basically said that we would look in to everything and consult fans on big decisions. However likely they are, I swear a few journalists basically heard no denial on a few questions and ran with it. I shouldn't be surprised. Edited October 14, 2022 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 22:55, Nobody said: We've got one of the best badges in England though (the best in the PL according to my Mrs who doesn't give two shits about football and wouldn't just say that to be nice to me), absolutely no need to change it. Would be gutted if we did change it tbh. As for SJP, I'd much, much rather keep the name, but if it's a deal worth doing, then I wouldn't be too gutted to see it change. SJP needs to still be there mind, and it must never be ruined with tacky shite plastered all over it like our previous owner did with it. Agree, I've always thought Sunderland were so green with envy over our badge that they copied the basic style and put lions instead of seahorses either side. Absolutely love our crest, am surprised to hear any complaints about it, although I suspect we are just talking about cosmetic changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Fucking seahorses I love the badge to bits, but fucking seahorses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, OpenC said: Fucking seahorses I love the badge to bits, but fucking seahorses They're hardly a random addition, they're from Newcastle's coat of arms, dating back to the 16th century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Aye, I know that They're still seahorses though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I understand the history and the fact that they're representative of something other than actual seahorses, I just think they're a bit of a comedy animal to have on there and I will never be convinced otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OpenC said: I understand the history and the fact that they're representative of something other than actual seahorses, I just think they're a bit of a comedy animal to have on there and I will never be convinced otherwise But unicorns, they'd be fine, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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