Wandy Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Clubs like Bournemouth and Palace would be the ones ejected to make way for them. It wouldn’t be a 30-club division. English football is a pyramid. That’s it’s strength. And 150 years down the toilet because some would like to see Man Utd play Barcelona twice a year guaranteed. Nah, I’ll give that a miss. They wouldn't be though, that's the point. You could have a PL consisting of maybe 14 English teams and 6 European teams. The 3 relegation spots to the Championship would still be there for English teams and a 4th relegation spot for the lowest placed Euro team, who get relegated back to their home league system. It would be like having two leagues combined into one, all fighting for the same prize. I could probably stomach having 6 foreign teams in the PL as long as the old domestic rivalries remained unaffected. In reality though a midweek Super League will be what happens, if it ever comes back on the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Wandy said: They wouldn't be though, that's the point. You could have a PL consisting of maybe 14 English teams and 6 European teams. The 3 relegation spots to the Championship would still be there for English teams and a 4th relegation spot for the lowest placed Euro team, who get relegated back to their home league system. It would be like having two leagues combined into one, all fighting for the same prize. I could probably stomach having 6 foreign teams in the PL as long as the old domestic rivalries remained unaffected. In reality though a midweek Super League will be what happens, if it ever comes back on the table. How would old domestic rivalries be unaffected with only 14 English teams in the top flight? The Manchester and North London derbies would be the only ones you could count on. I'm with you that it feels like a major shakeup could be coming and it might actually succeed if it's backed by enough money. Hopefully the new CL model is enough to keep everyone happy and PIF remains interested in us / focused on helping a Saudi WC bid so they don't try to LIV football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: How would old domestic rivalries be unaffected with only 14 English teams in the top flight? The Manchester and North London derbies would be the only ones you could count on. I'm with you that it feels like a major shakeup could be coming and it might actually succeed if it's backed by enough money. Hopefully the new CL model is enough to keep everyone happy and PIF remains interested in us / focused on helping a Saudi WC bid so they don't try to LIV football. Mainly because the opportunity to play at the highest level would remain for every single team in the English pyramid, albeit granted that it would be more difficult to get in. But taking this season, every team down to West Ham would have played in such a league, with Chelsea, Wolves and West Ham relegated and still replaced by Burnley, Sheff Utd and Luton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Even though we are richer than anyone now the super league can still get fucked, terrible idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 One thing is quite clear now. We are a very minor expense to PIF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, NWMag said: Even though we are richer than anyone now the super league can still get fucked, terrible idea Abso-fucking-luteley. Fuck that and fuck anyone trying to justify it now we’re a financial heavyweight. Makes a mockery of the whole concept of competitive sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, kocunar said: One thing is quite clear now. We are a very minor expense to PIF. Aye, they are chucking more money at individual players than what they are providing us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Would have been ridiculous if this were 20 years ago and there were no rules on spending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, timeEd32 said: Would have been ridiculous if this were 20 years ago and there were no rules on spending. Naa just means City would have competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Ben said: Aye, they are chucking more money at individual players than what they are providing us The rules won't let them chuck that kind of money at us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, Wandy said: The rules won't let them chuck that kind of money at us though. yep. The angle that never gets mentioned is the economy. 45% of any wages would go into our economy. https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1666025799844077568?s=61&t=ueDO4wJGMGqpaCxQvA5QFw 100 million just for him, 45 million lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: yep. The angle that never gets mentioned is the economy. 45% of any wages would go into our economy. https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1666025799844077568?s=61&t=ueDO4wJGMGqpaCxQvA5QFw 100 million just for him, 45 million lost. But he was never going to be offered £100m here, he's only being offered that because it's Saudi Arabia and it's the only reason they can get these ageing stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: yep. The angle that never gets mentioned is the economy. 45% of any wages would go into our economy. https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1666025799844077568?s=61&t=ueDO4wJGMGqpaCxQvA5QFw 100 million just for him, 45 million lost. Presuming you don’t realise the extent of wealth management and tax minimisation employed by the wealthiest 1%. He’d chainsaw that amount down to next to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDT said: But he was never going to be offered £100m here, he's only being offered that because it's Saudi Arabia and it's the only reason they can get these ageing stars. Agreed. They’d be going after the best of the best for double that. Saudi vs Abu Dhabi vs Qatar no limits. 33 first team players 75 squad players. The income tax would pay for a lot of food banks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Presuming you don’t realise the extent of wealth management and tax minimisation employed by the wealthiest 1%. He’d chainsaw that amount down to next to nothing. lol. You think premiership footballers pay next to nothing in tax ? edit - apologies as your post really amused me so I didn’t explain. The super wealthy and corporations can absolutely minimise taxes. When you have money it becomes easier. For anyone earning money it becomes much more difficult. Footballers have tried many things from offshoring payments, getting image rights though companies (to name a couple). The HMRC have done a pretty good job at getting their salaries through PAYE so they will absolutely be paying a lot of tax. Edited June 7, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 The PGA thing is massive. It’s a foot in the door to American sports now. I wonder if they will go all the way through and try to buy NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB teams? All the leagues have been able to gain American owners, and they have been able to keep away outsiders, as well as their owners going to others Leagues to buy teams. PIF buying such a team would have been a hard sell to get past before this announcement, but I wonder now if these leagues will see them as potential purchasers of the more struggling teams, the teams who need investment, or even expansion teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: Agreed. They’d be going after the best of the best for double that. Saudi vs Abu Dhabi vs Qatar no limits. 33 first team players 75 squad players. The income tax would pay for a lot of food banks. It wouldn’t pay for any foodbanks. Better taxation policy and increased revenues would mean that they wouldn’t need to exist. Though of course they shouldn’t exist at all at present - it is a conscious choice of the UK govt to have the poorest in food poverty. Edited June 7, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It wouldn’t pay for any foodbanks. Better taxation policy and increased revenues would mean that they wouldn’t need to exist. Though of course they shouldn’t exist at all at present - it is a conscious choice of the UK govt to have the poorest in food poverty. food banks were a bad choice and brought the discussion into politics, which I like to avoid! But you’re right. How the money would be spent is one thing the point I was trying to make is without ffp there would be substantially more money going into the economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Oliver Holt - bless Newcastle United has already been turned into an obedient, fawning vassal state, but even the portion of the fanbase that revels in calling itself the Saudi Mags may now be beginning to realise that it is a plaything, a pawn in a much, much bigger game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I don't think I've ever hated anything as much as Oliver Holt hates us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: I don't think I've ever hated anything as much as Oliver Holt hates us. It’s true. It isn’t Saudi he hates it’s Newcastle. He’s constantly digging at the fans not the Saudi state. He’s a piss soaked little deviant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 There’s probably about 10 people that revel in calling themselves the Saudi Mags, if that. He’s very strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Whole world is bending over for Saudi money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, reefatoon said: It isn’t Saudi he hates it’s Newcastle Aye, there's plenty of evidence out there of him covering Saudi based events with no issue at all. It's only once the PIF bought Newcastle he turned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 He's just gutted that the Saudi money is spreading in more and more places, going to be harder for him to continue being a prick towards our fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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