Nepharite Posted Tuesday at 20:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:04 We've spent fuck all and through good management, we are challenging for the top 4-5 again for the second time in two years. We don't need to spunk 100's of millions on so-called established players as long as the club/scouts/Mitchell do their jobs. I love what we are doing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted Tuesday at 20:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:45 23 hours ago, vic said: 75 next month so 3 quarters there. You do know I expect along with the rest of NO you to get that letter now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 22:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:17 4 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: Yeah, but the Vlachodimos deal is a PSR benefit in the short term, theoretically releasing up to £100m of extra PSR headroom. Vlachodimos is a massive PSR headache now; the Anderson and Minteh sales fell into the 23/24 season. This season, Vlachodimos adds amortised fee plus salary. He doesn't release 1m of headroom let alone 100m; he reduces headroom by c.6m this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted Tuesday at 22:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:24 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Vlachodimos is a massive PSR headache now; the Anderson and Minteh sales fell into the 23/24 season. This season, Vlachodimos adds amortised fee plus salary. He doesn't release 1m of headroom let alone 100m; he reduces headroom by c.6m this season. The game really is gone, when you read it laid out like this. What insanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted Tuesday at 22:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:24 2 hours ago, Nepharite said: We've spent fuck all and through good management, we are challenging for the top 4-5 again for the second time in two years. We don't need to spunk 100's of millions on so-called established players as long as the club/scouts/Mitchell do their jobs. I love what we are doing! I’d like to see the value of Mitchell now. I’m suprised we haven’t done a single thing this window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 22:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:29 Just now, ChrisMcQuillan said: The game really is gone, when you read it laid out like this. What insanity. I can't argue with that. This nonsense takes up far too much thinking - the only reason it seems important to know it is so that the club's performance in signing players etc can be reasonable. Happily, N-O is a reasonable place - but I've seen the Ronnie Gill and YouTube btl comments along the lines of 'why aren't we signing players?', 'where's the ambition?' etc - when the club is hemmed in by the daft PSR rules. To me, we can argue about whether or not the club has made best use of the available spend (and I think they've done an excellent job to date - we've had very few 'misses' in our signings), but I've seen plenty slagging the club for things outside its control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 22:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:30 5 minutes ago, Andy84 said: I’d like to see the value of Mitchell now. I’m suprised we haven’t done a single thing this window I'd have been very surprised if we had, tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 22:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:32 7 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: The game really is gone, when you read it laid out like this. What insanity. Would be amazed if he isn’t shifted in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 22:35 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:35 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Would be amazed if he isn’t shifted in the summer. I hope so, but if his transfer fee is what has been reported, then we'd need a 12m fee to 'break even'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Tuesday at 22:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:45 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Vlachodimos is a massive PSR headache now; the Anderson and Minteh sales fell into the 23/24 season. This season, Vlachodimos adds amortised fee plus salary. He doesn't release 1m of headroom let alone 100m; he reduces headroom by c.6m this season. PSR is over three seasons, so we benefit from the Anderson, Minteh and ASM sales in the PSR calculation until 25/26. For the purposes of PSR we made a profit of around £20m in 23/24 and that stays part of the calculation until 25/26. Edited Tuesday at 23:55 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted Tuesday at 22:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:47 Just now, Jackie Broon said: PSR is over three seasons, so we benefit from the Anderson and Minteh sales in the PSR calculation until 25/26. For the purposes of PSR we made a profit of around £10m in 23/24 and that stays part of the calculation until 25/26. isn’t this all irrelevant now and amortisation + wages must be 70% of total revenue for the year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Tuesday at 22:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:52 Just now, aussiemag said: isn’t this all irrelevant now and amortisation + wages must be 70% of total revenue for the year? No, the squad cost rules will (probably) be in addition to the current PSR rules rather than replacing them. Also, if they align with the UEFA squad cost rules, profit on player sales over the past three years are added to revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted Tuesday at 23:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:00 29 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: The game really is gone, when you read it laid out like this. What insanity. Football management games must be fun now too. Cant imagine a more potent wake up call that your looking at sprites, letters and numbers, slipping into nerdom and wasting your life than this PSR guff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 23:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:06 5 minutes ago, Jonas said: Football management games must be fun now too. Cant imagine a more potent wake up call that your looking at sprites, letters and numbers, slipping into nerdom and wasting your life than this PSR guff. Champ man / football manager was always as much an accountancy simulator as anything - the more 'realistic' it became the more I zoned out. Haven't played it for years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted yesterday at 01:04 Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I can't argue with that. This nonsense takes up far too much thinking - the only reason it seems important to know it is so that the club's performance in signing players etc can be reasonable. Yep, agreed. The problem is this is football now, and it will be until PSR-type measures are removed. In the mean time, it will touch everything in the game and not bothering your mind with it is like not bothering with the offside rule. You just end up getting angry at your striker for not positioning himself 30 yards upfield in all that open space... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 01:21 Share Posted yesterday at 01:21 16 minutes ago, 80 said: Yep, agreed. The problem is this is football now, and it will be until PSR-type measures are removed. In the mean time, it will touch everything in the game and not bothering your mind with it is like not bothering with the offside rule. You just end up getting angry at your striker for not positioning himself 30 yards upfield in all that open space... 100% mate, as depressing as that is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) On 15/01/2025 at 11:54, The College Dropout said: Getting Nuno was a masterstroke. Always a v. good manager. He didn't get a fair chance at Spurs. He was sacked in November. He wasn't backed in any way. Probably a bad fit for him while Forest is a perfect fit. His time at Spurs was bizarre. PL manager of the month for august (his first month in charge), and then sacked exactly 2 months later. Edited 9 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 21 hours ago, Andy84 said: I’d like to see the value of Mitchell now. I’m suprised we haven’t done a single thing this window Who would you like him to sell? I'm not surprised at all, I said this would happen right after the summer window as we don't like to do deals in january anyways with the tight FFP situation. As usual that opinion really upset some people, as they expected us to go on a spending spree after missing out on Guehi. Edited 8 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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