timeEd32 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I know everyone hates Man Utd, but they are one of the three biggest clubs in the world. Probably one of the 5 or 6 biggest sports teams globally. We're not going to match their list of sponsorships in 24 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, timeEd32 said: I know everyone hates Man Utd, but they are one of the three biggest clubs in the world. Probably one of the 5 or 6 biggest sports teams globally. We're not going to match their list of sponsorships in 24 months. But at least they can't stop us from trying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I know everyone hates Man Utd, but they are one of the three biggest clubs in the world. Probably one of the 5 or 6 biggest sports teams globally. We're not going to match their list of sponsorships in 24 months. That was my first thought, and I get that but how hard is it to sort out? tbf I haven't got a clue myself, just assumed it would be talking to a bunch of companies, do you want to sponsor us, bit of paperwork and some signatures, bish bash bosh. Edited January 23 by BonesJones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Would imagine that Leazes Park or similar would be explored again too. Never really got the massive uproar against it the last time. It’s not as if access to green space is an issue for anyone in the North East of England full stop. I get it to an extent. I wouldn’t want to see the town moor replaced with a bunch of Barrett homes. But the tactics of ‘Friends of Leazes Park’ and that daft bint who led them was underhand. Canvassing for signatures in Sunderland was the lowest. The pro- move side had far more signatures (over 100k from memory) before John Hall pulled the plug. And there was very little hand-wringing from the support at the time. People seem a lot more attached to SJP than they did in the mid-90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I know everyone hates Man Utd, but they are one of the three biggest clubs in the world. Probably one of the 5 or 6 biggest sports teams globally. We're not going to match their list of sponsorships in 24 months. We aren’t, but that’s more to do with valuation of the deals rather than the deals themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BonesJones said: That was my first thought, and I get that but how hard is it to sort out? tbf I haven't got a clue myself, just assumed it would be talking to a bunch of companies, do you want to sponsor us, bit of paperwork and some signatures, bish bash bosh. Was talking to one of the senior people in Man Utd's commercial team week before last. Even with their huge global profile and massive commercial teams looking all over the world for deals, getting sponsors isn't easy What does a minor sponsor get for the investment ? Their name on the LED boards and maybe a press release Hard for them to demonstrate ROI and that's for one of the biggest clubs in the world. And we're nowhere near them in terms of our global profile Edited January 23 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, BonesJones said: That was my first thought, and I get that but how hard is it to sort out? tbf I haven't got a clue myself, just assumed it would be talking to a bunch of companies, do you want to sponsor us, bit of paperwork and some signatures, bish bash bosh. I think it depends on how we want to approach it. We could probably get 5-10 companies to be global partners, "official spirit partner," etc. at some fraction of whatever Man United gets for it. We're then locked into that for X years. If we tried to get their number most companies would laugh at us and if we did get one it would probably get challenged. We seem to be taking the opposite approach, going top down. New shirt sponsor at a top 7 level, new kit manufacturer with a big brand getting the "elite" treatment. By all accounts it sounds like the training ground / kit sponsorship might be next. I can see the logic -- I imagine it'd be hard to ask someone to give you, say, £2m per year to be some vague global partner when only triple that gets you the shirt (fun88). Also, as we're building up the infrastructure within the club there's a far better ROI to be spending time with Adidas and talking to companies about putting their name on shirts, stadiums, and training grounds. My guess is things like airline, hotel, and/or betting partners will be in the foreseeable future, but we're probably a long way from "Official Formal Wear Partner" and "Official Electrical Styling Partner." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I think it depends on how we want to approach it. We could probably get 5-10 companies to be global partners, "official spirit partner," etc. at some fraction of whatever Man United gets for it. We're then locked into that for X years. If we tried to get their number most companies would laugh at us and if we did get one it would probably get challenged. We seem to be taking the opposite approach, going top down. New shirt sponsor at a top 7 level, new kit manufacturer with a big brand getting the "elite" treatment. By all accounts it sounds like the training ground / kit sponsorship might be next. I can see the logic -- I imagine it'd be hard to ask someone to give you, say, £2m per year to be some vague global partner when only triple that gets you the shirt (fun88). Also, as we're building up the infrastructure within the club there's a far better ROI to be spending time with Adidas and talking to companies about putting their name on shirts, stadiums, and training grounds. My guess is things like airline, hotel, and/or betting partners will be in the foreseeable future, but we're probably a long way from "Official Formal Wear Partner" and "Official Electrical Styling Partner." Well explained. Think I just want us to exploit everything before the rules change, simply because that's what others have done before us and for a far greater benefit than anything we can currently get away with. Wish there was something we could do to take advantage of the Saudi connection, that's some how within the rules. Ahhhh why the fuck are we having to discuss bollocks like this whilst also having owners with $600 billion more than the closest club. I don't want the rich club to be able just go nuts and destroy the game more than it is, but this is a joke. A club hit by I assume one of the worst injury lists for the first half season, is unable to buy new players without first getting rid of player x, to then have the risk that you don't end up getting player y, leaving you even worse off. Make it make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: I think it depends on how we want to approach it. We could probably get 5-10 companies to be global partners, "official spirit partner," etc. at some fraction of whatever Man United gets for it. We're then locked into that for X years. If we tried to get their number most companies would laugh at us and if we did get one it would probably get challenged. We seem to be taking the opposite approach, going top down. New shirt sponsor at a top 7 level, new kit manufacturer with a big brand getting the "elite" treatment. By all accounts it sounds like the training ground / kit sponsorship might be next. I can see the logic -- I imagine it'd be hard to ask someone to give you, say, £2m per year to be some vague global partner when only triple that gets you the shirt (fun88). Also, as we're building up the infrastructure within the club there's a far better ROI to be spending time with Adidas and talking to companies about putting their name on shirts, stadiums, and training grounds. My guess is things like airline, hotel, and/or betting partners will be in the foreseeable future, but we're probably a long way from "Official Formal Wear Partner" and "Official Electrical Styling Partner." We’re not locked in for X years if you use PIF-affiliated companies to do the deals with them. Whack them in at 20% of the value of the Man Utd deals on one- or two-year contracts - which would likely be enough to pass the ‘FMV’ shite that the PL has, and most would likely be under the related party transactions threshold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: We’re not locked in for X years if you use PIF-affiliated companies to do the deals with them. Whack them in at 20% of the value of the Man Utd deals on one- or two-year contracts - which would likely be enough to pass the ‘FMV’ shite that the PL has, and most would likely be under the related party transactions threshold. True, we could do that. We've decided not to for whatever reason. Maybe the money isn't worth the likely hassle. Or maybe related to what seems to be a clear attempt (only maybe Sela aside) of doing everything above board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 34 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: True, we could do that. We've decided not to for whatever reason. Maybe the money isn't worth the likely hassle. Or maybe related to what seems to be a clear attempt (only maybe Sela aside) of doing everything above board. The above board is likely. We are playing it cautious with transfers because of FFP and Everton and Forrest. And we are playing it cool with commercial deals because of Man City. Both legal actions put the spotlight firmly on us to keep our bum squeaky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack27 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Good read. They know what they’re doing lads and lasses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Aye, the future’s bright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Looking forward to eating my NUFC branded ShinCup noodles for lunch ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Going to be disappointing if come new kit launch day the club store is shut for renovations, but it is massively required. I think the place has had the same leak above the escalator since it first opened. I’d love to see more merchandise licenses handed so our future supporters and our collectible supporters can have something to buy. Time was we had a Monopoly board game, and even a club video game. Now we can’t even get a Subbuteo club branded game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Looking forward to eating my NUFC branded ShinCup noodles for lunch ? Noddles better be in the shape of our club badge for me to buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Now we can’t even get a Subbuteo club branded game. Not even Sports Direct FC from one of Mike’s tat shops? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I wonder if there has been a realisation amongst the executives, with FFP constraints, we can't let the contracts of senior players run down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Stifler said: Going to be disappointing if come new kit launch day the club store is shut for renovations, but it is massively required. I think the place has had the same leak above the escalator since it first opened. I’d love to see more merchandise licenses handed so our future supporters and our collectible supporters can have something to buy. Time was we had a Monopoly board game, and even a club video game. Now we can’t even get a Subbuteo club branded game. Theres a bit from Douglas that says the take over in May so presumably the store gets a full makeover before the official launch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I wonder if there has been a realisation amongst the executives, with FFP constraints, we can't let the contracts of senior players run down? Would say the transfer and contracts for high earners nearing the last four years of their playing career is pretty clear. Sell if there is interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 56 minutes ago, Fezzle said: Theres a bit from Douglas that says the take over in May so presumably the store gets a full makeover before the official launch Would presume adidas launch from 1st July, gives them great lead time for production and marketing ahead of holiday season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 hours ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said: The above board is likely. We are playing it cautious with transfers because of FFP and Everton and Forrest. And we are playing it cool with commercial deals because of Man City. Both legal actions put the spotlight firmly on us to keep our bum squeaky. 6 hours ago, Keegans Export said: Its great when posts align like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I know it may not be practical with rent costs in Newcastle and having a megastore already, but I’d love to see a return of club stores in the city centre aside from SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Has to be at least one store in the city centre, absolutely insane not to have one. And in the metrocentre. Even the likes of Crystal Palace have that FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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