Pixelphish Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, duo said: Tbf what else could she say Fat cunt wouldve been nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, manorpark said: 2023 Income was £250M. It had increased by 40% each year since the takeover. So, another annual 40% (hopefully) plus Sela (£25M) plus Adidas (£35M) plus Champions League money (£37M) totals a lot more than £300M for the June 2024 Annual Accounts Total. Unless I have got (and maybe I have) some of the above figures wrong? The Champions League money lands this season, adidas next season. The annual 40% growth isn’t a thing - that doesn’t just appear - that was partially through league placing, partially through new deals. There are no new deals, and we’re unlikely to finish 4th. The club’s income will be just under £300m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Good listen, apart from Amanda thinking there will be a Saudi club in the Champions league, a European competition 🤔 And she can fuck right off with that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Good listen, apart from Amanda thinking there will be a Saudi club in the Champions league, a European competition 🤔 that has teams from Israel competing in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: that has teams from Israel competing in it That’s because they were kicked out of the AFC - of which they were members - by those pillars of liberal democracy, Kuwait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: that has teams from Israel competing in it There are geo political reasons for that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 She's in Saudi Arabia bring asked a leading question, she didn't have much choice buy to say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: There are geo political reasons for that though. Yeah I know that, but it does mean that there is a chance (yes very remote today) that SA clubs could play in uefa competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 What’s with her saying we weren’t a big club? Hopefully she doesn’t believe that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 That comment about Bruce man, he has absolutely no shame like. I don’t think there’s anything he wouldn’t say to try and make himself out to be the victim / the good guy fighting against the odds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 there were strories of players turning up for training during the international breaks and bruce having fucked off on holiday without telling them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 He was just waiting for that payoff the useless fat pig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: The Champions League money lands this season, adidas next season. The annual 40% growth isn’t a thing - that doesn’t just appear - that was partially through league placing, partially through new deals. There are no new deals, and we’re unlikely to finish 4th. The club’s income will be just under £300m. I think it will easily clear £300m. This is admittedly fuzzy in places, but... £250m as starting point from last season - £9m in lower merit payment if we finish 7th - £3m from player sales + £25m from Sela + £37m from CL (this number is from the club; I'm assuming it includes the extra matchday revenue for 3 home games) + £28m from player sales (Maxi and Wood; being conservative and just taking the post-amortisation profit on Wood) + £6m from Amazon doc (Don't totally know where he got this but Swiss Ramble mentioned £10m for this and Saudi friendlies so I made up a #) Calling Fender / Saudi friendlies / England friendly / Summer Series a wash, though it may be another + for 23/24 That's roughly £334. Even if you take out the player sales and deduct a bit more for whatever reasons we're at £300m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 58 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I think it will easily clear £300m. This is admittedly fuzzy in places, but... £250m as starting point from last season - £9m in lower merit payment if we finish 7th - £3m from player sales + £25m from Sela + £37m from CL (this number is from the club; I'm assuming it includes the extra matchday revenue for 3 home games) + £28m from player sales (Maxi and Wood; being conservative and just taking the post-amortisation profit on Wood) + £6m from Amazon doc (Don't totally know where he got this but Swiss Ramble mentioned £10m for this and Saudi friendlies so I made up a #) Calling Fender / Saudi friendlies / England friendly / Summer Series a wash, though it may be another + for 23/24 That's roughly £334. Even if you take out the player sales and deduct a bit more for whatever reasons we're at £300m. isn’t the £3m on top of the £250m income? It’s a separate P&L line. so you also take out the £28m from player sales this year to get you £306m. if we get past city in the cup then there’s another £2m from the cup run against virtually nothing from the carabao run last year. so I get us £310m minimum before any player trading but I think that will be a little pessimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Yeah I did wonder if @TheBrownBottle was excluding player sales, which is why I hedged at the end. But ultimately that delineation is meaningless - all of the regulations are based on revenue + sales. The most helpful part of separating them is the fact that sales are the most volatile of revenue streams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: The Champions League money lands this season, adidas next season. The annual 40% growth isn’t a thing - that doesn’t just appear - that was partially through league placing, partially through new deals. There are no new deals, and we’re unlikely to finish 4th. The club’s income will be just under £300m. I hope you are wrong, but we will have to wait and see what the June 2024 Annual Accounts say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, SAK said: What’s with her saying we weren’t a big club? Hopefully she doesn’t believe that. I can't think of a single metric that made us a big club under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I know we all like Amanda and dislike Bruce but I imagine he will be on the phone to his lawyers given her comments about him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I know we all like Amanda and dislike Bruce but I imagine he will be on the phone to his lawyers given her comments about him She did say “a coach”.. like it was implied that it was Steve Bruce but she chose her words very carefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: Yeah I did wonder if @TheBrownBottle was excluding player sales, which is why I hedged at the end. But ultimately that delineation is meaningless - all of the regulations are based on revenue + sales. The most helpful part of separating them is the fact that sales are the most volatile of revenue streams. Yeah, I was excluded player sales. It’s tricky because as you’ve said, that’s the ‘known unknown’ of football finances - you know you can / will sell, but there’s little cost certainty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Btw, we’ve had great revenue growth since the takeover but over the next few years I expect them to slow a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 40 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I know we all like Amanda and dislike Bruce but I imagine he will be on the phone to his lawyers given her comments about him I would guess there are plenty of people who would confirm her comments in a court of law though. Even Graham Jones. "We did fuck all during the week". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 22 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Btw, we’ve had great revenue growth since the takeover but over the next few years I expect them to slow a lot. At present, I’d say we’re running out of headroom. There’s some low-hanging fruit still available, but after that we look knackered at the moment. I can’t foresee circumstances where our revenues go past £350m without something really significant happening - which would leave us at about 60% of Spurs’ income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: At present, I’d say we’re running out of headroom. There’s some low-hanging fruit still available, but after that we look knackered at the moment. I can’t foresee circumstances where our revenues go past £350m without something really significant happening - which would leave us at about 60% of Spurs’ income. How fucking sad is that though? We were ok par with Spurs before Ashley, now we can at best get up to 60% of their income Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) We will have the new fan-zone (open all week), training kit sponsorship, training ground sponsorship, stadium stands/stadium sponsorship and I'm sure quite a few other sponsorship/commercial deals which will happen. I honestly think it's a load of shit that some are thinking revenue steams will slow down. They won't. The owners are playing a very clever game of drip feeding things yearly to avoid any major scrutiny from the clubs desperate to try and stop our advancement and of course the southern media. Edited March 8 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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