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[Geordie Ahmed]

Would be ironic if the complaint came from La Liga, Real Madrid and Barca have been amongst the worst offenders over the years when it comes to chucking money about 

[r0cafella]

45 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Would be ironic if the complaint came from La Liga, Real Madrid and Barca have been amongst the worst offenders over the years when it comes to chucking money about 

Real have been state sponsored since Franco

[GeordieDazzler]

I’ve read that article twice and still not sure what we are actually being accused of

[Wilson]

I haven't read it once but going to guess we're being accused of trying to compete. 

[FloydianMag]

I could have sworn we left the EU a couple of years back and it was one of the reasons the fucking crooked Leave campaign gave was that UK businesses etc would be able to receive state aid? So does the EC have any jurisdiction in the UK and not all UEFA members are EU members.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by FloydianMag

[Whitley mag]

Not sure how we could be accused of distorting the market anymore than the American owned clubs. Football has rules in place FFP which prevents us from doing that very thing, not sure how they’d be able to accuse any state owned club of distorting the market unless they breached it.

 

[Ben]

Owners like the Glazers are a much bigger problem to the long term future of football than ours 

[BergenMagpie]

American owners are an abomination to the sport. Project big picture, super league, liverpool trying to trademark "allez allez allez" etc. They can all fuck off

[Geordie_once_removed]

American owners trying to fundamentally destroy the football pyramid and state owners buying clubs as part of wider geopolitical goals are both clearly bad for football as we know it.

 

We get more flack than others, and as a fan group we're often placed in an impossible position where we are told we have to stop doing something that has run in our families for generations and if we don't and we actually enjoy a 'product' that is immeasurably better than anything we've seen in 20 plus there is blood on our hands. But let's not pretend that none of the criticism of the owners is valid.

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said:

American owners trying to fundamentally destroy the football pyramid and state owners buying clubs as part of wider geopolitical goals are both clearly bad for football as we know it.

 

We get more flack than others, and as a fan group we're often placed in an impossible position where we are told we have to stop doing something that has run in our families for generations and if we don't and we actually enjoy a 'product' that is immeasurably better than anything we've seen in 20 plus there is blood on our hands. But let's not pretend that none of the criticism of the owners is valid.

As Eddie says “I’m here for the football” 

ours is only going to get better. Let’s start with smashing the “teeth grinder’s” lot today. 

[El Prontonise]

1 hour ago, FloydianMag said:

I could have sworn we left the EU a couple of years back and it was one of the reasons the fucking crooked Leave campaign gave was that UK businesses etc would be able to receive state aid? So does the EC have any jurisdiction in the UK and not all UEFA members are EU members.

 

 

 

 

 

There's still rules against levels of state aid with the trade agreement we have with the EU.

[Keegans Export]

The only accusations that could stick would be something like the Sela money actually coming from PIF/KSA directly rather than Sela itself. I think that was/is one of the things they're trying to get Man City on?

[PauloGeordio]

3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

The only accusations that could stick would be something like the Sela money actually coming from PIF/KSA directly rather than Sela itself. I think that was/is one of the things they're trying to get Man City on?

That will never happen to us! If it did we deserve the consequences. It won’t by the way. We have smart owners! 

[FloydianMag]

4 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

There's still rules against levels of state aid with the trade agreement we have with the EU.

We don’t receive state aid and perhaps you could link the Trade and Cooperation agreement with the EU and the relevant section on State Aid? I can’t be arsed to go through the agreement.

[El Prontonise]

3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

We don’t receive state aid and perhaps you could link the Trade and Cooperation agreement with the EU and the relevant section on State Aid? I can’t be arsed to go through the agreement.

 

You bloody do it since you brought it up.

[FloydianMag]

5 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

You bloody do it since you brought it up.

Had a quick look, it mainly applies to goods between the UK and NI w2hich is still in the EUSM.

 

https://www.economy-ni.gov.uk/articles/state-aid-and-subsidy-control-after-eu-exit

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complying-with-the-uks-international-obligations-on-subsidy-control-guidance-for-public-authorities/guidance-on-the-scope-and-application-of-article-10-of-the-windsor-framework

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by FloydianMag

[El Prontonise]

Why the hell is that article even being discussed.

 

It's clickbait shite and it's caught a few on here.

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, El Prontonise said:

Why the hell is that article even being discussed.

 

It's clickbait shite and it's caught a few on here.

Sunday papers day innit! 

[Maineblue]

Take it with a pinch of salt, Nick Harris wrote this pile of shite so that says it all really.

 

The new rules may or may not apply to the PL.

 

Theyve been in force since June and the article can’t confirm if any state funds come from the UAE.

 

As for the commission investigation, the commission was asked by Harris and they gave a generic reply that they look into all situations where state aid may inflate markets. But the article boldly states however the commission may open an investigation.

 

It’s just a shite article from Sportingcel and surprise surprise the Daily fucking Mail.

[Keegans Export]

Quote

...since the end of the transition period whereby EU State aid law ceased to apply to any aid granted by the UK except where it affects trade between Northern Ireland and the EU that is subject to the Windsor Framework.

Source https://cms-lawnow.com/en/ealerts/2023/06/revised-guidance-on-the-application-of-eu-state-aid-rules-in-the-uk-post-brexit#:~:text=The revised EC Notice%2C which,EU that is subject to

[El Prontonise]

There's always rules about subsidies in all trade agreements.

[FloydianMag]

Just now, El Prontonise said:

There's always rules about subsidies in all trade agreements.

You can hardly call it a trade agreement 

[Sima]

Is Nick Harris the cunt that wrote that shite in The Sun the other week?

[Pixelphish]

Here for Neesy's energy on this. What a load of drivel.

[Nucasol]

The club are playing by the rules, rigorously so. They know the Sinister Six are waiting to fuck them over along with fringe teams like Palace, West Ham and Brighton so have to be doubly careful.