Eddie Howe

[joeyt]

For all the criticism he's got we haven't replaced Trippier's assists either

 

I like Tino but his attacking output isn't anywhere near Trippier's for us

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

For all the criticism he's got we haven't replaced Trippier's assists either

 

I like Tino but his attacking output isn't anywhere near Trippier's for us

I'm wondering what's happened to him, he was an aggressive wingback now he looks more like a limited fullback albeit excellent defensively. 

 

Was watching him quite closely and their were a couple of occasions when I expected him to sprint and he just didn't

[ExiledGeordie]

7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Depressing right? I took absolutely zero pleasure in ringing the ffp alarm bell way back, it stinks. 

The cartel have won for the time being, our hands are completely tied. We’ll be occasionally 4th down to 8th for the time being I think with a tilt at cups. It’s great to actually have ambition again but I’ve downgraded expectations completely with the current premier league set up.

[Pablo123]

Really frustrating match, which I thought we'd win comfortably. Hopefully we can bounce back on Saturday 

[Lush Vlad]

Just now, joeyt said:

For all the criticism he's got we haven't replaced Trippier's assists either

 

I like Tino but his attacking output isn't anywhere near Trippier's for us

Yep. Tino is outstanding 1 v 1 and at winning the ball back. Nearly as good as Joelinton on that score. 
 

But every time he gets near the box. He looks like he’s panicking and rushed or worse. He just doesn’t make a decision and carries on running with the ball, straight into an opposition player. 
 

Difficult balance with how strong he is defensively compared to Trippier vs the attacking output the latter brings. 
 

It is sort of a similar argument for Barnes starting on the left. As he would bring more goals/chances. But isn’t anywhere near as good at covering the left back as others. 

[joeyt]

Just had a look.  Trippier got 10 assists from 28 PL games last season which is pretty incredible. 

 

7 the season before

 

Tino hasn't got any for us yet I don't think in the league

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I’m disappointed by Tino’s attacking in general, maybe I assumed he’s a different type of player. He seems to prefer to slow the game down and take his time. I was expecting more of a flyer. 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Just had a look.  Trippier got 10 assists from 28 PL games last season which is pretty incredible. 

 

7 the season before

 

Tino hasn't got any for us yet I don't think in the league

Any idea how many be got in the second half of the season from open play? 

 

Tripps also cost us a ton of goals so I'm not sure he's the answer mind. 

[SUPERTOON]

Tino has always looked better on the left for us, never been great on the right.

[Erikse]

8 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Just had a look.  Trippier got 10 assists from 28 PL games last season which is pretty incredible. 

 

7 the season before

 

Tino hasn't got any for us yet I don't think in the league

 

Trippier was literally atleast half of our attacking play when we were at our best. Probably more like 75% tbh, like our play revolved around him. I think that's the biggest factor of them all in terms of not being able to reach the same heights. It makes you wonder what we would've been without him in our best times since the takeover.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Erikse

[Yorkie]

I still can't entertain any notion of replacing the manager, not least because I feel like the pool of people who would represent an improvement is incredibly small.

 

There some concerning signs for sure this season, but I still think we look a good team on the whole, and the identity of the side is still recognisable: we're still a team which is set up to press and create lots of chances. The biggest issue all season has been that we haven't been clinical enough; that's a recipe for dropped points when every opponent apart from Southampton has a lot of quality. 

 

As long as the players still believe in the manager's ideas then we shouldn't even be considering changing. We've had two great seasons on the bounce (bollocks to you if you think last season wasn't class) so he's earned the right to find the solutions, or keep at plan A until it works. 

 

And like I keep saying, it's a season that could be defined by the cups. It would be heartbreaking if he wasn't at least given another shot at the Carabao Cup.

[joeyt]

5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Any idea how many be got in the second half of the season from open play? 

 

Tripps also cost us a ton of goals so I'm not sure he's the answer mind. 

 

I'm not saying he's the answer but taking out that amount of assists and not replacing them can certainly be a reason we aren't scoring many

 

Our set pieces are pretty dreadful and our crossing yesterday was absolutely abysmal. 

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

I'm not saying he's the answer but taking out that amount of assists and not replacing them can certainly be a reason we aren't scoring many

 

Our set pieces are pretty dreadful and our crossing yesterday was absolutely abysmal. 

 

Oh without a doubt couldn't agree with you more. 

 

I went through our side a month ago or so and really couldn't see where the goals and assist were coming from. We are one dimensional and stagnant imo. 

[Holmesy]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I still can't entertain any notion of replacing the manager, not least because I feel like the pool of people who would represent an improvement is incredibly small.

 

There some concerning signs for sure this season, but I still think we look a good team on the whole, and the identity of the side is still recognisable: we're still a team which is set up to press and create lots of chances. The biggest issue all season has been that we haven't been clinical enough; that's a recipe for dropped points when every opponent apart from Southampton has a lot of quality. 

 

As long as the players still believe in the manager's ideas then we shouldn't even be considering changing the manager. We've had two great seasons on the bounce (bollocks to you if you think last season wasn't class) so he's earned the right to find the solutions, or keep at plan A until it works. 

 

And like I keep saying, it's a season that could be defined by the cups. It would be heartbreaking if he wasn't at least given another shot at the Carabao Cup.

This is the bit that concerns me. The intensity seems to have returned but Gordon looks like a headless chicken, Isak isn't getting the service he needs, Barnes is confined to the bench, Tonali can't get a start. How long will the players be happy with the status quo? 

[Ikon]

We definitely haven’t been clinical enough. Having said that we definitely aren’t creating enough clear cut chances overall either. 

[Erikse]

I don't think Trippier will be the same at all, which is no surprise given that he's 34. It's just that the last couples of season prove how much we used to rely on Trippier.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If we’d won last night we would’ve been 6th. We’re 4 points behind 3rd. 
 

The last third of the game last night was terrible, but we put ourselves in a stupid position by letting in two soft goals and not finishing any of our chances. 
 

We don’t need to soul search after every defeat. 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I still can't entertain any notion of replacing the manager, not least because I feel like the pool of people who would represent an improvement is incredibly small.

 

There some concerning signs for sure this season, but I still think we look a good team on the whole, and the identity of the side is still recognisable: we're still a team which is set up to press and create lots of chances. The biggest issue all season has been that we haven't been clinical enough; that's a recipe for dropped points when every opponent apart from Southampton has a lot of quality. 

 

As long as the players still believe in the manager's ideas then we shouldn't even be considering changing the manager. We've had two great seasons on the bounce (bollocks to you if you think last season wasn't class) so he's earned the right to find the solutions, or keep at plan A until it works. 

 

And like I keep saying, it's a season that could be defined by the cups. It would be heartbreaking if he wasn't at least given another shot at the Carabao Cup.

 

 

I'm just going to repeat what I have said earlier in the season. I am not going to criticise the lack of goals, that's heavily dependent on the output from your attacking players, and I'm not convinced we've got real end product across the front line other than Isak. But our game plan is front foot attacking which if it doesn't work leaves us open to counter attacks. So he has to fix that because it's a problem that's not going away. Either find a way to get this side scoring goals, or maybe sit deeper and play a more conservative style.

[joeyt]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If we’d won last night we would’ve been 6th. We’re 4 points behind 3rd. 
 

The last third of the game last night was terrible, but we put ourselves in a stupid position by letting in two soft goals and not finishing any of our chances. 
 

We don’t need to soul search after every defeat. 

 

It's a pattern though that we've not played well for a lot of the season. 

 

Only really Arsenal and Forest where I'd say we've played well for a whole game

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

 

It's a pattern though that we've not played well for a lot of the season. 

 

Only really Arsenal and Forest where I'd say we've played well for a whole game

Yeah I know, but in the last few we’ve been better. Even last night we were very decent before both the goals. Totally outplayed West Ham in the first half. 
 

I’m not saying everything is great or perfect, it just feels a lot worse after games like last night. 

[huss9]

10 hours ago, Kanj said:

Shite day in the office and the last 30 mins was utterly bizarre but thankfully he’ll study it and sort it. 

love Eddie, but thats been said a lot recently.

[HaydnNUFC]

Howe and the coaching staff after studying it.

 

[Smal]

27 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

I'm not saying he's the answer but taking out that amount of assists and not replacing them can certainly be a reason we aren't scoring many

 

Our set pieces are pretty dreadful and our crossing yesterday was absolutely abysmal. 

 

Trippier didn't just bring assists either. He brought leadership, organisational qualities and world class technique on the ball playing out from the back and progressing play.

 

It's no coincidence at all that his form falling off a cliff coincided with our general performance levels dying simultaneously imo. We were hugely reliant on him for all sorts.  

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I would probably still start Trippier if he was fit. 

[Smal]

13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I would probably still start Trippier if he was fit. 

would be harsh on Livramento after some decent performances recently but same tbh. Livramento needs to massively improve on his delivery if he wants to be anywhere near as important to us as Trippier was.

 

If he can get some confidence back in his game he’s still a huge asset on the pitch for the rest of this season imo.