Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Sorry like, I can’t be chewed with the ‘have you all forgot you hypocrites’ vibe of those types of posts.

 

I never liked the sentiment.  

 

So you do demand a team that wins?

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[Andy]

11 hours ago, Ellis H said:

This is the lineup for the next Tottenham manager. You’d assume we’d be fishing in the same stream these days unless Mitchell has other ideas. Pochettino and Mourinho wouldn’t be anywhere near as long for us obviously.

 

Brendan Rodgers 5/2

Erik Ten Hag 8/1

Thomas Frank 8/1

Graham Potter 10/1

Gareth Southgate 12/1

Marco Silva 12/1

Andoni Iraola 14/1

Kieran McKenna 14/1

Michael Carrick 14/1

Roberto De Zerbi 14/1

Xavi 14/1

Diego Simeone 16/1

Eddie Howe 16/1

Julian Nagelsmann 16/1

Max Allegri 18/1

Maurizio Sarri 20/1

Michel 20/1

Lee Carsley 22/1

David Moyes 25/1

Mauricio Pochettino 25/1

Unai Emery 33/1

Jose Mourinho 100/1

Antonio Conte 250/1

 

Just realised Eddie is doing a fantastic job this season, excellent performance Saturday, very unlucky 

[Groundhog63]

39 minutes ago, Tross said:

 

At present we have neither. 

Change ya name to Dross

[Dr Venkman]

19 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Sorry like, I can’t be chewed with the ‘have you all forgot you hypocrites’ vibe of those types of posts.

 

I never liked the sentiment.  

Don’t like the sentiment of wanting the club you support to try to win, got it. ‘Desperately pathetic’ 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Dr Venkman

[Interpolic]

In the context at the time, that banner was spot on. The context being we were still being mocked as deluded geordies while witnessing all ambition being systematically stripped from the club over the course of 14 years. 

 

It still holds water, in the sense we want the club to be striving to improve within whatever constraints they're forced to operate in.

 

To call it "desperately pathetic" is unbelievable stuff @TheBrownBottle What would be on your banner? What were you doing at the time to get Ashley out? 

[toon25]

11 hours ago, Ellis H said:

This is the lineup for the next Tottenham manager. You’d assume we’d be fishing in the same stream these days unless Mitchell has other ideas. Pochettino and Mourinho wouldn’t be anywhere near as long for us obviously.

 

Brendan Rodgers 5/2

Erik Ten Hag 8/1

Thomas Frank 8/1

Graham Potter 10/1

Gareth Southgate 12/1

Marco Silva 12/1

Andoni Iraola 14/1

Kieran McKenna 14/1

Michael Carrick 14/1

Roberto De Zerbi 14/1

Xavi 14/1

Diego Simeone 16/1

Eddie Howe 16/1

Julian Nagelsmann 16/1

Max Allegri 18/1

Maurizio Sarri 20/1

Michel 20/1

Lee Carsley 22/1

David Moyes 25/1

Mauricio Pochettino 25/1

Unai Emery 33/1

Jose Mourinho 100/1

Antonio Conte 250/1

You'd think Frank will move on from Brentford shortly. 

 

Also don't half wish Southgate and fucking Potter wouldn't be mentioned with every job available. Pair of beige twats.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by toon25

[Rod]

3 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

In the context at the time, that banner was spot on. The context being we were still being mocked as deluded geordies while witnessing all ambition being systematically stripped from the club over the course of 14 years. 

 

It still holds water, in the sense we want the club to be striving to improve within whatever constraints they're forced to operate in.

 

To call it "desperately pathetic" is unbelievable stuff @TheBrownBottle What would be on your banner? What were you doing at the time to get Ashley out? 

Well said.

[Poon Raccoon]

50 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

You know I’m starting to think that a lot of this season’s weird form is fitness related. The weird team selections, not being able to string together a consistent run of performances. Mainly though it’s that we tend to get worse as the game goes on. At our peak under EH the team has excelled in the last 30 mins as other teams have tired and we’ve stayed at peak performance. I wonder what is going on behind the scenes and whether the training activity has changed.

Yeah but is that the reason.

 

Was the continuous pressing the cause of all the injuries and they can’t afford to press continuously knowing doing so will result in those injuries.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If Bunce is telling Howe to start Longstaff instead of Tonali then he needs to be ignored TBH. Our need for performances and points is greater than the need to protect to the players at the moment. 

 

Who knows.

[sixx]

If Howe is able to buy a player or two in january he won't really have any excuses not to finish in europe this season. We have to get some clean sheets and I want him to start Kelly in for Burn. 

[Yorkie]

Mad how I can still get so rattled by shit we were arguing about ten years ago. 

[Zero]

I think the question should be, if we failed again this season and finally go for the inevitable squad reset route, begin another round of rebuilding,

 

1. Would you still want Howe to be the one to lead us; and

2. Would PIF still trust Howe or ask Mitchell to bring in his choice?

[JEToon]

I know its probably the slight zig at a time when others are zagging but Schaar is a bigger issue this season than Burn for me, I appreciate one isn’t as aesthetically pleasing as the other though but if there is a player who actually is turning up on big occasions but not others its more Schaar than anyone, he has been borderline terrible in a few games this season.

 

It is almost like watching the defense at times it makes perfect sense you would have wanted an upcoming England international in there

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by JEToon

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I genuinely feel Burn has been playing to his best ability close to constantly this season. 

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, solely down to his consistency Burn has been comfortably our player of the season so far in my book. Something that tells its own story in terms of where we are at the moment, but no less true imo 

[Gallowgate Toon]

21 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If Bunce is telling Howe to start Longstaff instead of Tonali then he needs to be ignored TBH. Our need for performances and points is greater than the need to protect to the players at the moment. 

 

Who knows.

Tonali rotated out was a very weird move, especially against a side you know will break at pace. He's had a year off, played far less this season than Bruno/Joelinton (who looks like he's struggling physically at the moment), and we had a week's break after the game. Maybe Tonali had a knock but we were happy to get him on for 30 so he must be decently fit at the very least.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Tonali rotated out was a very weird move, especially against a side you know will break at pace. He's had a year off, played far less this season than Bruno/Joelinton (who looks like he's struggling physically at the moment), and we had a week's break after the game. Maybe Tonali had a knock but we were happy to get him on for 30 so he must be decently fit at the very least.

It will be managing minutes and load etc, but feels misguided for Tonali and Gordon who had just played well against Liverpool. We do blame Howe when people get injured as well though, so take your pick I suppose. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

It was somewhat maddening to watch a team perform very well and then be rotated to a loss. 

[Kid Icarus]

It's also difficult to put it down to that imo. 

 

Longstaff, Barnes and Murphy (not rotated, but he's always on the N-O chopping block) played well. Barnes made a mistake, but scored, Murphy got 2 assists, Longstaff played well.

 

A player that wasn't rotated had a stinker (Joelinton)

 

Then the players we apparently should have started with came on and to a man had really poor games, changed nothing about our defensive woes, and it completely fucked up our (until that point) threatening attack.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[Gallowgate Toon]

12 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It will be managing minutes and load etc, but feels misguided for Tonali and Gordon who had just played well against Liverpool. We do blame Howe when people get injured as well though, so take your pick I suppose. 

I'm all for rotation, we have good capacity for it in certain positions, it just seemed to me like we rotated out the midfielder who seemingly needed it the least. I was actually pretty happy to see Barnes start and he was a good threat - just a shame he made that one crucial error.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Gallowgate Toon

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

It’s tough to play bits of games. Particularly in adverse conditions. Felt for Howe with the way we conceded. That’s not really a managers job to make sure players don’t let the ball bounce, don’t pass to the opposition striker. 

[ponsaelius]

56 minutes ago, sixx said:

If Howe is able to buy a player or two in january he won't really have any excuses not to finish in europe this season. We have to get some clean sheets and I want him to start Kelly in for Burn. 

 

Did you watch Kelly against West Ham?

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I think a lot of people (not just our fans) are still in that mindset of thinking a manager change is the nearest thing to a silver bullet a club can do. Not that it isn't important, but there are imo clearly situations where managers are undoubtedly quality but something else is bottlenecking the club and a manager change will do nothing except freshen things up short-term or appease fans. 

 

 

 

Agree with this.  Look at Man U, Spurs - it’s not the managers that are the problem.  

 

1 hour ago, sixx said:

If Howe is able to buy a player or two in january he won't really have any excuses not to finish in europe this season. We have to get some clean sheets and I want him to start Kelly in for Burn. 

We don’t have any right to demand European football. 

[Checko]

Didn't see the Brentford game but the half time posts seemed to be generally saying we'd played well and should have been ahead. They had 2 goals from 0.15xG or something silly like that. Didn't sound like it was a dreadful starting set up tbf. After the flak he got for running players into the ground last year I'm not too worried about him starting to rotate a little bit.

 

I am a bit worried that we haven't had a period of playing consistently well for a year now. We had a good run of results near the end of last season but I don't think we were very convincing in the performances. There was some mitigation with injuries etc, but that and the way we still exclusively use the 433 set up that we've never been able to play good posession football with are causes for concern.

 

Still, every time it looks like Eddie's struggling he turns it around. Let's face it, If we'd beaten Brenford we'd be a couple of points off 5th after a couple of good results and everyone would be happy bunnies. Three good or bad results in a row completely changes the mood around a club.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Checko

[The College Dropout]

We were better at the end of last season for sure.  With a worse squad available.  
 

The June - Sep shit show has sidetracked us completely.