KaKa Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: What @KaKa has been posting re: Howe is spot on. I was very excited about Emery and very disappointed when he bailed. Yeah, I think he bailed. He's at a club he loves, in an area his family is comfortable so I totally understand why he got cold feet. Count me amongst those who will think he'll regret his decision on a professional level. Such is the potential the club has. One guy wants to be here, a bunch of others didn't. Within reason, I'll take the guy who wants to be here. Howe, on a slightly smaller scale, I'll grant you that, has done what the consortium are looking for. He taken a team up through the tiers, punching above it's weight while keeping an eye on building for the future. He's impressed them with his vision and the detail of how to take the club from A to B to C, etc. Does he get to run the whole show? No. Someone like McParland is likely to come on board in some kind of role and a DoF will also be hired. Howe will likely have a say in who comes in but won't be responsible for running that part of the show. He will focus on on the field operations and have a hand in some other processes. He not a sexy continental guy. doesn't have wavy hair and speak with an accent. He's also not a dodgy PFM with narrow vision and lack of imagination. No one coming in right now is guaranteed success, bar Rafa. I don't see Howe as a safety net pick. I see him as one of a few very good choices looked at by the consortium and I think he has some solid credentials from his time at Bournemouth, He has some dynamism and al lot of smarts too. There was a bit about the new ownership wanting to target someone that projected as both a good short-term and long-term manager, who can come in and consolidate things with the right backing, and then grow with the club as it goes from strength to strength of the back of all the various things that are going to be put in place throughout the club, with a complete structural overhaul. The manager that comes in is going to have access to a whole different level of recruitment technologies and support, same with data analysis and statistics, high level execs with great contacts in football etc. It's a great opportunity for a manager with potential who could really elevate further under these conditions. Its why I could really see Howe coming in and doing better than expected and then being in a position to grow further. Funnily enough a good friend of mine is a season ticket holder at Arsenal and knows some people that work within the club, and when I told him Emery had turned us down and we were looking at Howe, he thought Howe was a better move. He said Emery struggled badly at Arsenal with getting his ideas across with people at the club because his English was not very good and he didn't/wouldn't use a translator. He thought Emery might have ultimately decided against Newcastle because his experiences outside of Spain have not turned out well so far (At PSG, Arsenal and Spartak), and he thinks it was largely down to communication issues, and so at this point Emery just wanted to perhaps stay where both he and his family are currently comfortable and settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: Well yeah same but my worry is whether his methods specifically worked for Bournemouth, then when they didnt he couldn’t adapt. Like when he went to Burnley. If his methods don’t work here he needs to change, straight away. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy with him but I am not as happy as I would have been a couple of years back Yeah I would say I share that concern too. With some people it’s the right time and right place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) FWIW in my experience Howe is a popular choice with a lot of the very much not online older generation. Lost count of the amount of times I've heard "I don't know why we don't go for Eddie Howe!?" from my great uncle, uncles, father in law, and the woman at work. Edited November 4, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Probably nothing like but: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, kisearch said: FWIW in my experience Howe is a popular choice with a lot of the very much not online older generation. Lost count of the amount of times I've heard "I don't know why we don't go for Eddie Howe!?" from my great uncle, uncles, father in law, and the woman at work. Cos he’s British marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Charlies said: Probably nothing like but: wasn't that because they were expecting Emery to be announced and this would be his 1st training session Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Feels almost like we're trawling through the worst periods of his career in order to get the 'told you so' ready should he fail. He's a manager with a decent track record who we would have all been buzzing about a month ago. For once agreed with the mega troll Luke Edwards, hope he gets absolutely unbridled support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Well yeah same but my worry is whether his methods specifically worked for Bournemouth, then when they didnt he couldn’t adapt. Like when he went to Burnley. If his methods don’t work here he needs to change, straight away. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy with him but I am not as happy as I would have been a couple of years back But at the same time, i'm sure there were plenty of period over his 4-5 years where things did go wrong and he did change them and they did work. Maybe he'd just ran his course, injuries, stale, whatever. But i dont think we can just look at one priod at say it went wrong and he done nothing, thats suggesting everything went right 100% of the time previously which of course wouldnt be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Charlies said: Probably nothing like but: Guessing it does mean something, they still haven’t said who is doing the pre match press conference tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Thomson Mouse said: Cos he’s British marra Nah, it's nigh on always because of the way Bournemouth play. All of them can't stand Bruce, Allardyce, and shudder at the prospect of Dyche etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elliottman said: But at the same time, i'm sure there were plenty of period over his 4-5 years where things did go wrong and he did change them and they did work. Maybe he'd just ran his course, injuries, stale, whatever. But i dont think we can just look at one priod at say it went wrong and he done nothing, thats suggesting everything went right 100% of the time previously which of course wouldnt be the case. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Looks like he’s going to be in in time for Saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Guessing it does mean something, they still haven’t said who is doing the pre match press conference tomorrow Would have thought we would know if Howe was in Newcastle today by now. Press are always all over that. Can't see him making an appearance at training in an hour lol. Maybe the owners are so embarrassed they have gone on total leak lockdown lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Howe's signed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'm sorry like but I'm really not getting excited about this. We're the worlds richest club and you're honestly telling me Howe is the best we can do for the foreseeable future? I can understand people being content as we've just had Bruce for almost 3 years, but its an underwhelming appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, toontownman said: Would have thought we would know if Howe was in Newcastle today by now. Press are always all over that. Can't see him making an appearance at training in an hour lol. Maybe the owners are so embarrassed they have gone on total leak lockdown lol The owners where on Tyneside for 72 hours before the takeover broke to be fair ? and Howe was only in Liverpool last night it’s not far away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Is it not just that it was scheduled that way for Emery coming in and they didn't want to muck the players about again changing the training time at late notice? Edited November 4, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, kisearch said: Is it not just that it was scheduled that way for Emery coming in and they didn't want to muck the players about again changing the training time at late notice? Hardly mucking them about when we knew Emery wasn’t coming over 24 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Over his five PL years at Bournemouth they conceded an average of 66 goals a season. He sounds ideal to sort out our dogshit defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, FCB said: Howe's signed Source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Beth said: Over his five PL years at Bournemouth they conceded an average of 66 goals a season. He sounds ideal to sort out our dogshit defence. That’s my biggest concern and why I sadly feel we will go down with him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: Source? Garlic mayo + trust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Hardly mucking them about when we knew Emery wasn’t coming over 24 hours ago aye, but people make plans. If my boss tells me on Tuesday that I've got Thursday morning off and then I'm told the next day that actually I have to come in I'm saying too bad, I've made plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, kisearch said: aye, but people make plans. If my boss tells me on Tuesday that I've got Thursday morning off and then I'm told the next day that actually I have to come in I'm saying too bad, I've made plans. ? imagine a premier league player doing that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 All in for Steady Eddie now like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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