Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: Yes, finally some common sense To you it is, to others it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, 54 said: On the flip side to that, what is one individual coach meant to do in a shower of shit? As far as I am aware Jones has a decent standing reputation as a coach in the game, fairly certain Conner Coady came out and raved about how good he was when he was with England. There’s been a few quotes from players about his good coaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Just now, Thomson Mouse said: There’s been a few quotes from players about his good coaching There has also been quotes from players about how good a manager Steve Bruce is. Means fuck all. Edited November 5, 2021 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: To you it is, to others it's not. Clearly to others it is. The Jones hate is weird. I mean have any of you seen him coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: But how can we pick one coach out over the others? We can't say they have all done a shit job but he hasn't. He is part of that team that works on the players every day. We have looked ten times worse this season compared to last too and I am not blaming him personally for that, but looking at the state of them he has hardly came in and raised it has he. I get that, and I agree with you but you can also still be a good coach, even if its in a bad setup, even in normal workplaces, you can be a really good worker but be surrounded by utter shite so your work gets under minded. Also, there was a direct correlation last season with him coming in and us getting results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: There has also been quotes from players about how good a manager Steve Bruce is. Means fuck all. Care to enlighten us on the types of players? You seem to have a pathological hatred of him and his coaching based on very little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, wormy said: I honestly haven't given two shits about Jones since coming to terms with the fact he wasn't going to spell the end of Bruce. Couldn't imagine caring about his eventual role enough either way to defend him or actively call for his sacking. Seems utterly pointless judging his coaching ability based on him needing to try and keep an entire coaching set up afloat, a job he shouldn't have ever been tasked with in the first place. If he's got uses that the new head coach/DoF deem worth keeping him around for then that's fine by me. If they sack him then take care and all the best. This is the correct answer btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Thomson Mouse said: Clearly to others it is. The Jones hate is weird. I mean have any of you seen him coach? It's funny because i find your adamant defence of his weird too. Like sticking up for a relative. You seem to get really wounded if anyone says a bad thing about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, 54 said: This is the correct answer btw. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, reefatoon said: It's funny because i find your adamant defence of his weird too. Like sticking up for a relative. You seem to get really wounded if anyone says a bad thing about him. And yet there’s a snarky emoji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Clearly to others it is. The Jones hate is weird. I mean have any of you seen him coach? Can't we just judge the results we see, like with every other manager and coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: Care to enlighten us on the types of players? You seem to have a pathological hatred of him and his coaching based on very little. Willock gave an interview on the radio in the summer saying how great Steve Bruce is. ASM also said the same when Bruce was sacked. There is just two for you straight away. Didn't see you list any players like. Like I said before too, i don't hate the bloke at all, just don't think he should skip any criticism for the state our players are in as he is part of that coaching team that has us shit, unfit, clueless and sitting second bottom. We really need to stop this pointless back and forth like. As i mentioned some other time we will never agree on the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: When do we think this will be announced? 15 mins time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: When do we think this will be announced? Will be interesting to see if he is in the stands tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, reefatoon said: Willock gave an interview on the radio in the summer saying how great Steve Bruce is. ASM also said the same when Bruce was sacked. There is just two for you straight away. Didn't see you list any players like. Like I said before too, i don't hate the bloke at all, just don't think he should skip any criticism for the state our players are in as he is part of that coaching team that has us shit, unfit, clueless and sitting second bottom. We really need to stop this pointless back and forth like. As i mentioned some other time we will never agree on the subject. How great Bruce is at what? What did Willock and ASM say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Can't we just judge the results we see, like with every other manager and coach? I actually personally think you can separate the two, you can be a good coach/ assistant, yet make an awful manager, there has been a load of cases of that happening. Our new (potential) assistant manager in Jason Tindall being the same, should we be annoyed that he could be getting appointed? Also caretaker managers rarely do well too fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Watching that video of Howe mic’d up, there’s a decent amount of counter attacking drills, which he could employ here to tighten up our defence, similar to what Rafa did. Plenty of numbers at the back and rapid counter attacks could be our get-out for this season. In Murphy, Almiron, Willock, ASM and Wilson we’ve definitely got the forward players to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5pm or 6. Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: When do we think this will be announced? Before the game tomorrow for maximum impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, 54 said: I actually personally think you can separate the two, you can be a good coach/ assistant, yet make an awful manager, there has been a load of cases of that happening. Our new (potential) assistant manager in Jason Tindall being the same, should we be annoyed that he could be getting appointed? Also caretaker managers rarely do well too fwiw. Nah I agree, don't want to make a big deal of this. I just don't think Jones has shown anything as a coach either. Not here anyway. We stayed up because Willock had the time of his life, that's it. Like I say, fine if Howe wants to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 An insight into Eddie Howe's start at Bournemouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Jones obviously had an impact when he first came in, for whatever reason, that was reversed over the summer. Probably because he was away with England and then missed a lot of pre season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Nah I agree, don't want to make a big deal of this. I just don't think Jones has shown anything as a coach either. Not here anyway. We stayed up because Willock had the time of his life, that's it. Like I say, fine if Howe wants to keep him. I get you, its kind of a pointless debate to be honest, after this weekend we're not going to see or hear from him again, as he'll meld into the backroom team, and everyone will foget he exists. Weirdly he reminds me a bit of Cathro, did he come in under McLaren, or was he a Rafa coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Journalists have gone very quiet. I suspect they know fine well what is going on but have probably been told not to say anything after what happened with Emery. It's not a foregone conclusion BTW. Howe had problems agreeing stuff around his backroom team with Celtic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, 54 said: I get you, its kind of a pointless debate to be honest, after this weekend we're not going to see or hear from him again, as he'll meld into the backroom team, and everyone will foget he exists. Weirdly he reminds me a bit of Cathro, did he come in under McLaren, or was he a Rafa coach? Cathro was a McClaren hire and Rafa saw worth keeping him on so very much a similar set of circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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