Eddie Howe

[Matt1892]

He is usually good with his tactics when he needs to change things but he didn’t change anything tactically when Liverpool went a man down nor in the second half when we needed to step up the intensity to put the game to bed, just the same subs.

 

I think he’s also making a mistake with the midfield he has built; the current set up of having three players that can interchange is  the reason Isak looks so isolated at times, compare that to Man City who go with a traditional holding man and then an attacking midfielder who can get forward to support.

 

Maybe that will change when Willock comes back as he wants to break and get forward but we are crying out for a Maddison type player to pull the strings and knit the attack together.

 

EDIT - He should have brought Wilson on and dropped Isak in behind him early in the second half.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Matt1892

[The Butcher]

It wouldn't surprise me too much if Bruno is sacrificed next summer and we bring in a proper DM and a more attacking midfielder to play with Tonali.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by The Butcher

[Oregon_Geordie]

Love wor, Eddie! More disappointed by our approach since the goal than owt else today. Overall, a few of the team need a kick up the arse.

[Bally21]

8 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

Almost seems that today Klopp used the 'rope a dope' tactic - Newcastle (and Howe) had no answer for it 2nd half.

 

As I said in match thread - no panic. Learn the lessons and move on. Trust in the manager - he has taken us this far (top 4 and back into the CL)

 

Bedwetters can get to fuck.

Spot on....it hurts today but done now...learn our lessons and move on...CL draw Thursday...HWTFL....

[Geordie Ahmed]

Got it badly wrong today but he's gotten things right so many times anyone that's talking about him not being good enough for the step up etc is a doylem 

 

 

[Rod]

11 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

He is usually good with his tactics when he needs to change things but he didn’t change anything tactically when Liverpool went a man down nor in the second half when we needed to step up the intensity to put the game to bed, just the same subs.

 

I think he’s also making a mistake with the midfield he has built; the current set up of having three players that can interchange is  the reason Isak looks so isolated at times, compare that to Man City who go with a traditional holding man and then an attacking midfielder who can get forward to support.

 

Maybe that will change when Willock comes back as he wants to break and get forward but we are crying out for a Maddison type player to pull the strings and knit the attack together.

 

EDIT - He should have brought Wilson on and dropped Isak in behind him early in the second half.

 

 

 

Great and honest analysis.

[Kanj]

Eddie’s got this. We’ll rebound. It begins next week. My health and sanity can’t take much more dwelling on todays result and my agony earlier. 

[mighty__mag]

Three of our five losses last season came from the two sides we just played. The manner of it wasn't pleasant, but it's reality. 

 

Each season we will gradually get closer, right now we're not there yet.

 

Eddie is the best manager we've had in a long long time, and apart from today, the football and our approach to games is hardworking and exciting most of the time. 

[The Prophet]

Thought the setup was fine, as were most of the subs. Potentially could have done with Tonali's quality later in the game, but no idea how he was doing fitness wise.

[Sempiternal]

15 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

He is usually good with his tactics when he needs to change things but he didn’t change anything tactically when Liverpool went a man down nor in the second half when we needed to step up the intensity to put the game to bed, just the same subs.

 

I think he’s also making a mistake with the midfield he has built; the current set up of having three players that can interchange is  the reason Isak looks so isolated at times, compare that to Man City who go with a traditional holding man and then an attacking midfielder who can get forward to support.

 

Maybe that will change when Willock comes back as he wants to break and get forward but we are crying out for a Maddison type player to pull the strings and knit the attack together.

 

EDIT - He should have brought Wilson on and dropped Isak in behind him early in the second half.

 

 

 

Absolutely 100 percent. This midfield is crying out for someone who can pick a pass like Maddison can. 

[El Prontonise]

Learning curve for the players, manager and coaches.  It's fine they'll be setbacks along the way etc.

 

Manager and players will rightly be criticised to a degree which is what professional sport is all about.

[Lish007]

I think Eddie's earned our trust on this. I'm going to forget about it all now and move on! 

[Wolfcastle]

25 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

Almost seems that today Klopp used the 'rope a dope' tactic - Newcastle (and Howe) had no answer for it 2nd half.

 

As I said in match thread - no panic. Learn the lessons and move on. Trust in the manager - he has taken us this far (top 4 and back into the CL)

 

Bedwetters can get to fuck.

It was a classic keep it tight and go for broke late on tactic that paid off. Sir Bobby with Glass, Lua-Lua and Cordone introduced against Man U when it was 0-1 springs to mind. Unlike then they could easily have been long since beaten by that point.

Keegan lost to ten men at home to Arsenal. Shit happens. Some of our fans reactions to any setback remain the most disappointing thing for me.

Were going to lose on average six-ten games a season even as a good team - so will everybody else bar Man City.

[Tsunami]

I think what is most disappointing is that when they went down to 10 men we didn’t put Trent under any pressure. He was 1 foul away from a 2nd yellow (albeit he should have been sent off before VVD). I’d have pinged everything to Gordon and looked to have used out extra man in and around Trent at every opportunity.

 

Poor day at the office, Howe had his head in his hands when the winner went in. Have to learn from this. 

[joeyt]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Thought the setup was fine, as were most of the subs. Potentially could have done with Tonali's quality later in the game, but no idea how he was doing fitness wise.

 

The subs cost us the game

[Jagten]

Mostly OTT takes in a game where we weren’t great but were still unlucky not to win. That said, we have doubled down on Eddie – hired his family and gone to the limit FFP in pursuit of his style. I hope it does not become relevant to ask whether we could have hedged our advantageous position better.   

[Charlies]

He fucked up. He’ll learn from it. Simple. 

[Big Geordie]

There will be crackerjacks among our lot who expect us to go and challenge for the PL, this season - that's really unlikely to happen. It's more about targeting a top 8 finish and having a right fucking go at the cups and the CL, IMO.  Nothing to lose on the latter.

[El Prontonise]

2 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

I think what is most disappointing is that when they went down to 10 men we didn’t put Trent under any pressure. He was 1 foul away from a 2nd yellow (albeit he should have been sent off before VVD). I’d have pinged everything to Gordon and looked to have used out extra man in and around Trent at every opportunity.

 

Poor day at the office, Howe had his head in his hands when the winner went in. Have to learn from this. 

 

It helps TAA when they go down to 10 men as if changes his role completely.  Instead of being an attacking RB he's there's simply to defend.

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

The subs cost us the game

 

Gordon had just pulled up with cramp and was blowing out his arse and Isak was anonymous. The Tonali seemed strange though, he was playing well.

 

Individual errors cost us the game though.

[Ronaldo]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Thought the setup was fine, as were most of the subs. Potentially could have done with Tonali's quality later in the game, but no idea how he was doing fitness wise.

Madness. 

[The Prophet]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

Madness. 

 

What is?

[ponsaelius]

It's fucking annoying and we messed it up undoubtedly, but equally those were two ridiculously ruthless finishes from Nunez. 

[joeyt]

I don't think there was any need for us to make 3 subs all in one go.

 

Before they introduced the new 5 subs rule you'd never see a manager do that unless they wanted to completely alter everything about the game's flow. And any flow we did have was compeltely lost with that triple change

[WinstonFC]

Why would Tonali be struggling fitness wise