54 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Beth said: I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace. We didn't spend all of last season trying to get into the Champions League to settle for the Europa. I would much rather my team lose while do everything they can to progress, then to settle for mediocrity and the Europa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Yes, at this point of the season, and given our injury problems, I would rather not play in Europe at all than play in Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 If PSG were 2 nowt up then mebbes sit in and play for the europa But I'd have been gutted if we played for a draw when we still had a chance of qualifying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, 54 said: We didn't spend all of last season trying to get into the Champions League to settle for the Europa. I would much rather my team lose while do everything they can to progress, then to settle for mediocrity and the Europa. Well I'd rather be in the EL than nothing, and that's the best we can relistically hope for for next season now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beth said: I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace. This is Pardew level thinking. Fortunately our current manager doesn’t think this way. Eddie would be (rightly) getting ripped today if we shut up shop at 1-1 to hold on for a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beth said: I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace. Respectfully disagree I love we tried to get through, it’s the sort of mentality that we need if we’re going to have success going forward. In situations like that, play to win. You are always a funny draw away from a deep run, all it takes is a few favourites not to win their group - just look at the two halves of the CL knockout draw last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 It seems I'm in the minority then. You never know, we might beat Chelsea and be two games from Wembley again, although of course with our luck this season we'd get Liverpool in the semi's.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Beth said: I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace. Low ambition mentality. Strive to be the best we can be is our new mantra and I love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 The hell for leatherness was fine by me, it was the naivety when they were countering for their second that was a problem. Schar flew too close to the sun and then Isak for some reason didn't bring their player down, then Dubravka imo should have saved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Beth said: Well I'd rather be in the EL than nothing, and that's the best we can relistically hope for for next season now. We’re 4 points off 5th which will get champions league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Eddie's philosophy is to attack games we are winning. It works 9/10 and is the reason why we batter so many sides. We are the most ruthless Newcastle side I've seen in this regard. Yesterday was a day it didn't work. Get a fucking grip of yourselves man. The reason it doesn't work has nowt to do with naivety but because 1 We are playing elite level sides, with ruthless attackers 2 The current 11 are absolutely knackered 3 We've got very little on the bench to tweak things tactically Going forwards, we will put sides to the sword in Europe but it won't have anything to do with our manager changing his philosophy but because we will continue to grow our squad and because we wont have this level of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, STM said: Eddie's philosophy is to attack games we are winning. It works 9/10 and is the reason why we batter so many sides. We are the most ruthless Newcastle side I've seen in this regard. Yesterday was a day it didn't work. Get a fucking grip of yourselves man. The reason it doesn't work has nowt to do with naivety but because 1 We are playing elite level sides, with ruthless attackers 2 The current 11 are absolutely knackered 3 We've got very little on the bench to tweak things tactically Going forwards, we will put sides to the sword in Europe but it won't have anything to do with our manager changing his philosophy but because we will continue to grow our squad and because we wont have this level of injuries. Great take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, tgarve said: We’re 4 points off 5th which will get champions league It probably won't though, due to us and Man U going out early. Spain will definitely get one of the two extra spots and it looks like Germany or Italy will get the other, unless City and Arsenal both get to the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, tgarve said: We’re 4 points off 5th which will get champions league Don’t think it will. Us and Man U going straight out puts a big hole in the coefficient boat. Germany, Italy and Spain are ahead in the current rankings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beth said: It probably won't though, due to us and Man U going out early. Spain will definitely get one of the two extra spots and it looks like Germany or Italy will get the other, unless City and Arsenal both get to the final. It's far from settled. City should go far and there will be three English teams in the Europe League knockouts + one in the Conference that should do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Beth said: I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace. Beth in a complaining shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 If Mehrdad and Amanda retain the same influence, then Eddie Howe will be here for the long term. If PIF get more involved and decide they want “a name” then there could be some changes in the future. I think the effort last season took its toll and there’s definitely been an element of burnout. The people we’ve signed haven’t really challenged the “starting 11” as such. It’s all medium to long term planning which is fine but for January I think we need a spark akin to Bruno arriving. The team really needs a lift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Eddie Howe is the one person standing between us and the ownership ownership that is making this whole “project” not feel like we are the richest club on the planet and I for one love that. He has brought back, and since kept, the soul in this club and made us all love our club again. That doesn’t happen with any of the “elite” managers they could replace him with and I really hope the powers that be realize how priceless that is to them. The club just feels good right now. Edited December 14, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Agree with the points you are trying to make, however Pardew was an absolutely shit manager and a massive prick, that’s why people wanted him out. Can’t put his name in there with the others. It doesn't matter. As a fanbase we have not backed a manager during a dissappointing season. There's no precedent. Not since i've followed the club in-depth anyway. That's my point. Not if we were right or wrong. And people are pretending otherwise but I see the grassroots of dissent on here under he disguise of Saudi ruthlessness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Off the top of my head 94/95, 96/97, 97/98, 98/99, 00/01 for one reason or another were all a bit disappointing but the manager was supported. 03/04 is the only season where a point could be made. Go beyond that and you're looking at seasons with multiple managers and managers who didn't deserve support if they didn't get it. Edited December 14, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyDogs Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: It's far from settled. City should go far and there will be three English teams in the Europe League knockouts + one in the Conference that should do well. Italy still have 7 teams left in Europe and Germany 6 with us and Man United going out it is a huge blow to 5th getting an extra CL spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Off the top of my head 94/95, 96/97, 97/98, 00/01 for one reason or another were all a bit disappointing but the manager was supported. 03/04 is the only season where a point could be made. Go beyond that and you're looking at seasons with multiple managers and managers who didn't deserve support if they didn't get it. 96/97 is one of my favourite seasons, Keegan’s departure aside. Final day of the season was absolutely brilliant: Us thrashing Forest and stealing 2nd / CL qualification, Boro and Mackems down. I vividly remember the walk from the Gallowgate to the Quayside and us being given Peter Reid monkey’s heed masks. Sun shining, party-like atmosphere. Then the next 2 seasons were absolute shit apart from the cup finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: 96/97 is one of my favourite seasons, Keegan’s departure aside. Final day of the season was absolutely brilliant: Us thrashing Forest and stealing 2nd / CL qualification, Boro and Mackems down. I vividly remember the walk from the Gallowgate to the Quayside and us being given Peter Reid monkey’s heed masks. Sun shining, party-like atmosphere. Then the next 2 seasons were absolute shit apart from the cup finals. End of that season was mad. Keegan never seemed to find a way of getting Ferdinand, Tino and Shearer in the same team, then the last few games it was as if Dalglish went against all his managerial beliefs, hoyed the three of them up top, turned Robbie Elliott into a goalscoring midfielder, and took us to the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: 96/97 is one of my favourite seasons, Keegan’s departure aside. Final day of the season was absolutely brilliant: Us thrashing Forest and stealing 2nd / CL qualification, Boro and Mackems down. I vividly remember the walk from the Gallowgate to the Quayside and us being given Peter Reid monkey’s heed masks. Sun shining, party-like atmosphere. Then the next 2 seasons were absolute shit apart from the cup finals. It had some amazing moments (the 5-0, 7-1, qualifying for the Champions League) but going into it with the expectation after signing Shearer, then Keegan leaving, the dirge football Dalglish had us playing, getting dicked by Monaco, Ginola being ostracised (my version of what Souness did with Robert) I remember feeling really disappointed, particularly as Man United were nothing special that year. Finishing 2nd on 68 points is mental like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Are we a patient fanbase with managers? The answer is no. If you want to pretend otherwise that’s fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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