TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: One thing that cannot be denied is whatever they’re doing to coach the defence isn’t working at all. We know Burn is shit and costs us goals but the rest of the defenders, individually, have proven themselves to be excellent. So what the fuck are they working on in training? I’m not convinced that BDB is shit, mind. Pope’s absence is a massive factor in how the back line is performing; Botman’s clear non-recovery from injury is another. That does leave the question about what we’re doing about it, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Tonali Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Sandro Tonali said: Never complained when it was our legend KK with the try to score more than you concede philosophy though? Think of the shite we have had to endure for years and years and now this stat gets thrown about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Sandro Tonali said: Think of the shite we have had to endure for years and years and now this stat gets thrown about You forgot to change your username there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Will we still be able to attract our top targets in the summer with a mid table finish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Tonali Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, reefatoon said: You forgot to change your username there. Should have bet on there being some ungrateful, glory seeking clems on here tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Holmesy said: One thing that cannot be denied is whatever they’re doing to coach the defence isn’t working at all. We know Burn is shit and costs us goals but the rest of the defenders, individually, have proven themselves to be excellent. So what the fuck are they working on in training? Personally think the midfield is more of an issue than the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Dan said: Will we still be able to attract our top targets in the summer with a mid table finish? Nee idea. We got Bruno, Botman and Isak in as a mid table or relegation threatened club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Sandro Tonali said: Think of the shite we have had to endure for years and years and now this stat gets thrown about Omg bye bye ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not convinced that BDB is shit, mind. Pope’s absence is a massive factor in how the back line is performing; Botman’s clear non-recovery from injury is another. That does leave the question about what we’re doing about it, though. I find it hard to believe that Howe has seen Dubs in training and never realised that he wouldn’t suit our style of play. It is baffling that it has taken a run in the team to highlight this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 48 minutes ago, Stifler said: Him being defensively niece with Bournemouth was my main worry with him when he first arrived. Last season things obviously changed, but this season has just reversed all that. Is this more scandalous Howe nepotism in the back room staff? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Dan said: Will we still be able to attract our top targets in the summer with a mid table finish? It's holding onto Isak and Bruno I'm more worried about if, say, an Arsenal come sniffing about. Especially Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I do hope we really attack the summer window and try and get some early positive business done. Will help build momentum leading into the new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Matt1892 said: I find it hard to believe that Howe has seen Dubs in training and never realised that he wouldn’t suit our style of play. It is baffling that it has taken a run in the team to highlight this. Yeah, I’m scratching my head about it as well. Howe has a reputation for being meticulous; you’d think that there would be a change to account for Dubravka in nets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Dan said: Will we still be able to attract our top targets in the summer with a mid table finish? We signed Trippier and Bruno when we were 19th in looking like relegation candidates. We the signed Botman and Isak after an 11th place finish. Why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) He'll be here next season, but anything other than a blitzkrieg of a start and he'll be in big trouble. For the first time I'm having doubts about whether we'll see a return to the immense pressing, solidly defensive unit we seen last season. We look so far off that, particularly away from home that it's becoming more difficult to envisage a return to it. The most glaringly obvious issue is that it's so easy to bypass that midfield. Teams just seem to play through us and smash us on the break again and again. How often do players find space in between the lines? Can he sort it? Does he bring in a defensive midfielder? We don't make up for a lack of intensity by being good enough on the ball, or controlling games either. It's cliche to say theres no plan B, but we only seem to sort of play one way, and if we're not at it we're poor, as has been the case in too many occasions this season. I don't want him gone, but I am starting to wonder whether he'll turn it round. Edited March 11 by Doctor Zaius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I do hope we really attack the summer window and try and get some early positive business done. Will help build momentum leading into the new season. It will be a slow window, the Euro’s are on, that always delays things. Also it is rare for clubs to actually do things early. If any of our targets are in the Euro’s, then not only do we have to wait for them coming back, but the selling clubs will be waiting to see if they have a good campaign to ramp up the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I do hope we really attack the summer window and try and get some early positive business done. Will help build momentum leading into the new season. I worry we haven't the budget as we've been busy extending players contracts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 18 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I honestly believe that if our current placing was the result of consistent performances throughout the season, there would be fewer grumbles. The problem is that we’ve been in relegation form for the last third of the season - and the green shoots of recovery weren’t there today. We have lost 4 games this calendar year. Liverpool. Man City Arsenal And today away to Chelsea. It's hardly relegation form, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Tonali Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) Never heard so much nonsense. Only thing missing is a billion pound squad of players Edited March 11 by Sandro Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Ok so here’s the question: Summer coming up with relaxed spending rules.. this will likely be a one or possibly two window thing before tighter controls kick in. Do you trust this man to spend that? He seems to have consolidated a lot of power with others not here now so it’s very likely he’ll get to bring in his pals if that’s what he wants to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, dcmk said: We have lost 4 games this calendar year. Liverpool. Man City Arsenal And today away to Chelsea. It's hardly relegation form, man. We have only won one of our last 5 home games, which includes games against clubs currently in 13th, 17th and 18th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Yes, absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I don’t trust his nephew to sign players, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: He'll be here next season, but anything other than a blitzkrieg of a start and he'll be in big trouble. For the first time I'm having doubts about whether we'll see a return to the immense pressing, solidly defensive unit we seen last season. We look so far off that, particularly away from home that it's becoming more difficult to envisage a return to it. The most glaringly obvious issue is that it's so easy to bypass that midfield. Teams just seem to play through us and smash us on the break again and again. How often do players find space in between the lines? Can he sort it? Does he bring in a defensive midfielder? We don't make up for a lack of intensity by being good enough on the ball, or controlling games either. It's cliche to say theres no plan B, but we only seem to sort of play one way, and if we're not at it we're poor, as has been the case in too many occasions this season. I don't want him gone, but I am starting to wonder whether he'll turn it round. Must admit I'm not far away from this too. The last 4 or 5 months aren't a blip, he's been brilliant to get the club form 19th to 11th to 4th but now we've dipped back into mid-table. He fully deserved all of the praise for doing so but now it's going backwards he's going to be asked some uncomfortable questions. He's ultimately responsible for results and performances, good or bad, and they've been largely bad for a long time now. He absolutely deserves the rest of this season and probably next season too but the doubts are creeping in, he's under the pump but what's he doing to change it? Why do we look so shit? Why are we conceding so many soft/shit goals? Why are we so easy to play against? Why are we playing the same way in the same formation every single game? Where has the discipline gone? Where has the aggression gone? Why are we getting done on the counter 10 times a game? Where has the defensive composure gone? Why are we shit scared to put a challenge in to stop attacks at source? You can't just say "injuries", it's more than that. It's far more than just injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, dcmk said: We have lost 4 games this calendar year. Liverpool. Man City Arsenal And today away to Chelsea. It's hardly relegation form, man. We’ve averaged one point per game over the last fourteen games. It is potential relegation form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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