Lush Vlad Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 10 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: Definitely not tough to please. Supported this team so long I’ve seen it all. We’re in good times and it’s brilliant supporting the club the last few years. You look forward to each weekend now with a real hope that we’ll keep pushing forward collectively. That doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of mistakes that happen, or poor performances. If Eddie Howe is as critical of himself he’ll have thought or said the same things that posters on here have said. We went to shit defensively earlier on season and that was a real concern, he looks to have stabilised things but when I say rebuild I mean Botman missing for a large portion. Potentially majority of season. Burn is not a long term solution. Lascelles same boat injury wise. Trippier was showing signs of slowing down this season. Let’s see how he is when he’s back but he may well be a candidate for moving on. We may need 2-4 players to come in to cover all those positions. So yeah, a rebuild of sorts. Agree on Burn. But even with a small sample size, he has been one of our best performers since moving to CB? Lascelles was what, 3rd possibly 4th choice CB in most people's eyes at the start of the season? We were always going to look to replace him or push him further down the pecking order. Trippier - good job we brought Livramento, then. Trippier being rotated and given a rest or used more tactically isn't a bad thing. So we needed one centre back in, anyway. Now we need two. Say we do manage to get Tosin and Kelly on free transfers (or similar players that don't cost a fortuner) and spend decent money on 1-2 other positions, such as RW and/or striker. Then the squad looks miles better already without a 'rebuild of sorts'. Obviously if we lose someone like Bruno or Isak, then it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 14 hours ago, cubaricho said: Should be noted too that he says “I’ve never thought of international for me” just to put to bed those stupid rumors. Hasnt stopped the mediocre UK press still talking about it in todays papers mind. Also some have run with the narrative that despite heavy investment Howe has failed compared to last season. Completely ignoring the huge factors that make this seasons acheivements actually brilliant with a tiny chance of absolutely incredible. Not one word in several write ups mention injuries, just lack of consistency ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 10 hours ago, Terrymac1966 said: Eddie Howe will become our own Fergie over the next 20 years beginning with the FA Cup and Europa Cup next season ...stick with him he is such a good coach and motivator... ? We will never see a manager as successful at Fergie again, at least Man U gave him the time to develope. I have a vague idea he did nowt for a few years and was on his way out when they won an FA cup, the rest is history. He did have the ability to see positives in players that others couldn't and to create a team that was greater than the sum of its individuals, something I think Eddie has too. I hope if we have a falling off of results for a single season our owners have enough nous not to panic and join the revolving door managerial approach. I would give Howe another 4 seasons minimum, especially given the changes to the rules designed to keep us where they think we belong. Edited May 9 by Sid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Just now, Sid said: While we will never see a manager as successful at Fergie again, at least Man U gave him the time to developed. I have a vague idea he did nowt for a few years and was on his way out when they won an FA cup, the rest is history. He did have the ability to see positives in players that others couldn't and to create a team that was greater than the sum of its individuals, something I think Eddie has too. I hope if we have a falling off of results for a single season our owners have enough nous not to panic and join the revolving door managerial approach. I would give Howe another 4 seasons minimum, especially given the changes to the rules designed to keep us where they think we belong. Ferguson achieved miracles at Aberdeen too - that bought him a lot of credit. His position in British football was far greater than Eddie's. Finishing 6th would be a great achievement. I've been critical of Eddie at times but finishing 6th under these circumstances would be another superb season. I would consider 8th as par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Last time we had consecutive top 6 finishes was 2004. Not to mention our relegation escape in his first season which was nothing short of miraculous given the position Cabbagehead left us in. People need a little perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skeletor said: Last time we had consecutive top 6 finishes was 2004. Not to mention our relegation escape in his first season which was nothing short of miraculous given the position Cabbagehead left us in. People need a little perspective. We’ve had ‘four in a row’ top six finishes once: 1993-94 (3rd), 1994-95 (6th), 1995-96 (2nd), 1997-98 (2nd). Three in a row once: 2001-02 (4th), 2002-03 (3rd), and 2003-04 (5th). Would be fantastic for 2023-24 to be the second of a record breaking run. For comparison: Man City will have 11 in a row this season. Man Utd will hopefully not add to their current six in a row (30/31 top six finishes thus far). Arsenal will have three in a row (28/32). Liverpool will have eight in a row (26/32). Edited May 9 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Charlton Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Mr Howe should be given a new contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Vinny Green Balls said: This is not helping your argument at all, man. Once again, I don’t think you understand human psychology, particularly with people used to pulling the strings. People said the same thing about having Sports Directors over managers once upon a time. Rotating first team players more often than injury or form demanded, too. What he said was very strange but it's not as ridiculous as you're making it sound. It's dystopian, but if multiclub models became more entrenched, I could even see groups moving managers between their clubs like corporations move employees between departments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 minute ago, Paully said: https://x.com/nufcblogcouk/status/1788498591415206230?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Our Gaffa! ???????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, Paully said: https://x.com/nufcblogcouk/status/1788498591415206230?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA That is bonkers all considered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 That top reply says it all really; when you compare those stats with the squads that the other two guys inherited compared to the one Eddie inherited, it confirms the class and talent that Eddie has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Magpie Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, cubaricho said: That top reply says it all really; when you compare those stats with the squads that the other two guys inherited compared to the one Eddie inherited, it confirms the class and talent that Eddie has. What? Surely you can't mean that bloke that got Bournemouth relegated from the Premier League! (The utter crassness of the fat fucking charlatan that press buddies claim is a nice bloke.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: We’ve had ‘four in a row’ top six finishes once: 1993-94 (3rd), 1994-95 (6th), 1995-96 (2nd), 1997-98 (2nd). Three in a row once: 2001-02 (4th), 2002-03 (3rd), and 2003-04 (5th). Would be fantastic for 2023-24 to be the second of a record breaking run. For comparison: Man City will have 11 in a row this season. Man Utd will hopefully not add to their current six in a row (30/31 top six finishes thus far). Arsenal will have three in a row (28/32). Liverpool will have eight in a row (26/32). I don't think it's ever been harder to finish in the top 4 or 6 either. I believe the only two clubs outside the big 6 to have consecutive top 6 finishes since Man City emerged are Leicester (2019-21; 5th / 5th) and Everton (2012-14; 6th / 6th). Maybe even more incredible (and something I didn't realize last season) is we're the only club outside of the big 6 other than Leicester in their title winning season to qualify for the Champions League since City's takeover. Everton in 2004/05 the only other one since Roman's takeover. Edited May 9 by timeEd32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 53 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I don't think it's ever been harder to finish in the top 4 or 6 either. I believe the only two clubs outside the big 6 to have consecutive top 6 finishes since Man City emerged are Leicester (2019-21; 5th / 5th) and Everton (2012-14; 6th / 6th). Maybe even more incredible (and something I didn't realize last season) is we're the only club outside of the big 6 other than Leicester in their title winning season to qualify for the Champions League since City's takeover. Everton in 2004/05 the only other one since Roman's takeover. Villa will surely finish in the top 4 this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Villa will surely finish in the top 4 this season. All but confirmed. No way Villa lose every game and Spurs win every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 21 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Villa will surely finish in the top 4 this season. Similar praise for Emery. What the two of them have done in consecutive seasons is outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 52 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Similar praise for Emery. What the two of them have done in consecutive seasons is outstanding. Agreed, but next season is the real test for him. See if Villa can cope with a likely terrible CL draw like we had, plus little money to strengthen to progress due to ... reasons. To my mind, Howe will have come through this benighted season with flying colours. Emery's difficult second album is coming up and fair play if he manages it and keeps shaking things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySolano Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Except there is no way villa get as bad of a draw as we did. And definitely not the kind of domestic cup draws we did. Eddie really played in hard mode this year and made a real go of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 hours ago, Paully said: A Chelsea supporter buddy just told me today that Eddie Howe's ceiling is a midtable club...as evidence by his first 100 games here. Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 https://theathletic.com/5466853/2024/05/10/eddie-howe-newcastle-100-games/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, Vinny Green Balls said: A Chelsea supporter buddy just told me today that Eddie Howe's ceiling is a midtable club...as evidence by his first 100 games here. Jesus Christ. It’s admirable that you befriend the hard of thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FloydianMag Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Eddie rated 11th best manager in the world by this lot. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-50-best-managers-in-the-world/4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Nice graphic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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