Eddie Howe

[Andy]

Not too worried about the interview tbh. Most of what Howe has said is fairly normal given the changes directly above his head.

 

The only slightly concerning aspect to me is the suggestion that we're not sure about transfer targets/budget with only a few weeks left until the season starts. Hate seeing players come in at the backend of the transfer window, always feels like a waste of the pre-season. 

[SUPERTOON]

9 minutes ago, Andy said:

Not too worried about the interview tbh. Most of what Howe has said is fairly normal given the changes directly above his head.

 

The only slightly concerning aspect to me is the suggestion that we're not sure about transfer targets/budget with only a few weeks left until the season starts. Hate seeing players come in at the backend of the transfer window, always feels like a waste of the pre-season. 

Especially when it has been reported numerous times that the targets for this summer have been in place for ages, and a new sporting director wouldn’t affect plans. 

[The College Dropout]

Edu and Arteta seem to work together. 
 

Klopps best team he worked with Edwards on and didn’t always get his way.  
 

Guardiola has all his ex Barca lot in management. 
 

Eales made it seem like it would be a team effort. 

[Abacus]

1 hour ago, Cf said:

 

Looking at your Guardiolas, Klopps, Artetas... Aren't they making all the big calls?

 

They're not some Brighton style where you can just swap the coaches in and out. They've made those teams in their images with long term projects. Yeah for sure there'll be teams behind them but they're very much in the driving seat, no? They're way more than the guy who takes training and pick the team. 

 

That's my one concern with Eales' comments about Eddie being best on the grass. I don't want us to have this mindset where the manager is an easily rotatable piece. 

 

Agree with all of that. I guess all I'm saying is that it's a hell of a burden so he needs people around him he can trust.

 

Edit - and maybe people around him to challenge every now and again. All great managers need that from time to time 

 

 

Edited July 20 by Abacus

[Dr Jinx]

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

If true that is the case, then he needs to go now, as we can't wait all summer with this rumbling on, only for him to go. 

[McDog]

Seems like bullshit to me but who knows?

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

Seems like bullshit to me but who knows?

Of course it probably is. It's just crazy that we keep cycling through the bullshit, and many who shit on any positive rumor are quick to believe even the most implausible negative ones.

[Vinny Green Balls]

32 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

Honestly, based on what? Sometimes you sound like the perfect candidate to be a sports journalist.

[madras]

2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Honestly, based on what? Sometimes you sound like the perfect candidate to be a sports journalist.

Based on Mitchell working with him in the past and currently being unemplyed. 2+2= Hedgehog.

 

 

Edited July 20 by madras

[Danh1]

36 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

Sheer laziness given his history with Mitchell imo. 
 

They know nowt, they didn’t know about Mitchell until it happened, let alone who we have lined up etc. 

 

 

Edited July 20 by Danh1

[gjohnson]

5 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Sheer laziness given his history with Mitchell imo. 
 

They know nowt, they didn’t know about Mitchell until it happened, let alone who we have lined up etc. 

 

 

 

Nope EH will stay. No respectable coach will take it over a club role

[The College Dropout]

7 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

I don’t see any difference to standard Eddie stuff. He plays with a straight bat, whilst always diplomatic, I  really admire his honest, articulate,  humorous and assertive style. He’s a genuine person and backs himself enough to know what he is worth. 

No he doesn’t. He’s usually a liar and gives nothing away. 
 

That interview is unusually candid. 

[Whitley mag]

I think it’s pretty clear Howe likes total control over football matters, he’s never worked at a big club and unfortunately he needs to get used to this set up, he clearly had Amanda’s ear and that probably played a part in Ashworth fucking off.

 

In saying that he’s clearly best man for job, someone like Poch would have been a dream when takeover happened, but his stock has fallen massively and wouldn’t excite me one bit now.

 

Let’s hope everyone gives it a go this season, think the transfer window certainly is going to be a test for the new dynamic and whether Mitchell and Howe’s vision aligns on transfer strategy.

[Dr Jinx]

47 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Honestly, based on what? Sometimes you sound like the perfect candidate to be a sports journalist.

 

Why thank you 😂

 

Based on, he wants the job, maybe not right now but it's an opportunity that may not present itself again. He's smart and I'm sure he's considered this.

 

He's talked about a difficult summer.. aside from the PSR nonsense and the recent departures of Amanda and Mehrdad, why else would it have been difficult? Again.. things going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to.

 

Or there's more to both those situations than we realise. 

 

Either way it's just a nagging feeling that all isn't well.

 

I think PIF rate him but he doesn't have that same relationship that he had with Staveley and the recent additions of Mitchell and Bunce just add more layers to get through to have any direct access.

 

So yeah, between all that and the speculation in the papers, I think he's a bit unsettled and I don't think his quotes from those interviews are the last of it.

[et tu brute]

Watched the Geordie Journos on YouTube earlier and they were saying that Howe had a more harder tone at the press conference with the tabloids, compared to the video interviews. 
 

 

[Ameritoon]

Louise Taylor said the same but they've since taken that part out of the article 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/19/eddie-howe-hints-england-manager-interest-with-newcastle-warning

[OverThere]

What are these boundaries I wonder? The DOF and manager need to be on the same page for sure, but EH isn't the DOF.

[Dr Jinx]

It's harder for a DoF to come in and make an impact when there's already a sitting manager there who they didn't choose.

 

Does he have an input on tactics? Style of play etc? Or is he just a glorified scout or head of recruitment?

 

Not saying it's impossible but EH won't be willing to let go of everything he currently has control over. He needs to meet them halfway for it to work.

[McDog]

21 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

It's harder for a DoF to come in and make an impact when there's already a sitting manager there who they didn't choose.

 

Does he have an input on tactics? Style of play etc? Or is he just a glorified scout or head of recruitment?

 

Not saying it's impossible but EH won't be willing to let go of everything he currently has control over. He needs to meet them halfway for it to work.

 

 

I mean that's true, but during the hiring discussions he came in knowing exactly what the manager is and how he plays, right. It wasn't some shocking thing. I'm not clued in obviously but do DOF normally dictate style on the pitch? I will agree totally that they need to meet in the middle to make everything work but should be true of every single club in the world. 

[Dr Jinx]

I'm just not convinced EH wants to work under a DoF. He has to if he stays but then he does have this other potential amazing opportunity if he chooses not to.. one where he wouldn't have to work under anyone.

 

That's the crux of it. Total freedom or stay and try and manoeuvre several layers of executive dick swinging to try and achieve your goals.

[aussiemag]

3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

I'm just not convinced EH wants to work under a DoF. He has to if he stays but then he does have this other potential amazing opportunity if he chooses not to.. one where he wouldn't have to work under anyone.

 

That's the crux of it. Total freedom or stay and try and manoeuvre several layers of executive dick swinging to try and achieve your goals.

 

I do think the "executive" swinging is necessary for the successful medium and long term future of the club. Eddie is only going to be looking at the season ahead and will want to make all decisions that might help this year, but then see the club move backwards. For example not moving Trippier and Wilson on in January is effecting transfer business now. I also think Eddie needs to be more open to scouting outside of PL experience. 

[McDog]

2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

I'm just not convinced EH wants to work under a DoF. He has to if he stays but then he does have this other potential amazing opportunity if he chooses not to.. one where he wouldn't have to work under anyone.

 

That's the crux of it. Total freedom or stay and try and manoeuvre several layers of executive dick swinging to try and achieve your goals.

 

 

Maybe, but he needs to get used to it. Not seen too many jobs where you answer to no management unless you own the whole shop.

[Kanj]

He literally admitted he was in support of one as he wanted to focus on managing and coaching. 

[ToonToon]

Noone person is bigger than the club.  If Howe has doubts he should leave.  Setting boundaries internally is fine but to come out with make me happy stuff in the media is quite dangerous.  

Phase 2 of our rebuild is in motion and there will be casualties.  Howe may have just set the wheels in motion for him to be one of them.