El Prontonise Posted Saturday at 16:27 Share Posted Saturday at 16:27 Just now, pubteam said: Was botman just tired? Between him and Dan burn I thought he was having the better game. He took a knock during the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Saturday at 16:28 Share Posted Saturday at 16:28 25 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: I think that change was for fitness reasons? Botman took a knock first half. I thought it was balance, didn't look to be working. It will be Schar + Burn/Botman going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Saturday at 16:28 Share Posted Saturday at 16:28 Just now, El Prontonise said: He took a knock during the first half. Ah hadn't seen this. It confirmed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted Saturday at 16:28 Share Posted Saturday at 16:28 Just now, El Prontonise said: He took a knock during the first half. So just precautionary with a bit luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted Saturday at 16:38 Share Posted Saturday at 16:38 41 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: My only criticism or critique of him would be he might of fallen into the trap of not changing a winning team despite the signs of fatigue etc being there. Remember when Rafa would rotate etc. I don't think we really have the squad for doing that. Looking at the starters and the bench and it's really only Joelinton or Tino who could've been rotated assuming Schär wasn't fully fit. And then you would start Willock or Longstaff who are woefully out of form. The drop of quality behind so many is just too big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Saturday at 16:51 Share Posted Saturday at 16:51 Awful result and a truly stinking performance in isolation but heaps of perspective needed here like. We've been utterly unbelievable for the past 5 weeks, blowing teams off the park game after game after game. Today was such a gigantic anomaly of a result and performance that I'm already over it and laughing at just how bad it was. I know it sounds daft but it was so different in tempo, attitude and performance that I've already written it off as 'one of those days' and moved on to thinking about the Southampton game. Games like today happen. So fuck. Move on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Saturday at 16:53 Share Posted Saturday at 16:53 Couldn't ask for a better fixture next. Southampton are pony and it being away is a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Saturday at 16:53 Share Posted Saturday at 16:53 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: What time does the official Howe Out protest start? Asking for a friend The official one? That started many, many months ago... 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Saturday at 17:11 Share Posted Saturday at 17:11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pata said: I don't think we really have the squad for doing that. Looking at the starters and the bench and it's really only Joelinton or Tino who could've been rotated assuming Schär wasn't fully fit. And then you would start Willock or Longstaff who are woefully out of form. The drop of quality behind so many is just too big. People mock me(and i can understand it considering our previous streak), but our lack of options in midfield and attack is really worrying now that the first XI gave out huge warning signs of being out of energy. Other teams will look at this game and use the same tactic. Hopefully it just came from just a couple of days rest time since last game. Edited Saturday at 17:13 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Saturday at 17:17 Share Posted Saturday at 17:17 23 minutes ago, STM said: Couldn't ask for a better fixture next. Southampton are pony and it being away is a good thing. They looked good against Man U, we put in a performance like today and we'll be getting beat Hopefully today was just a one off and we can get back to playing the way we can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Saturday at 17:23 Share Posted Saturday at 17:23 32 minutes ago, midds said: Awful result and a truly stinking performance in isolation but heaps of perspective needed here like. We've been utterly unbelievable for the past 5 weeks, blowing teams off the park game after game after game. Today was such a gigantic anomaly of a result and performance that I'm already over it and laughing at just how bad it was. I know it sounds daft but it was so different in tempo, attitude and performance that I've already written it off as 'one of those days' and moved on to thinking about the Southampton game. Games like today happen. So fuck. Move on All of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Saturday at 17:25 Share Posted Saturday at 17:25 (edited) 32 minutes ago, STM said: Couldn't ask for a better fixture next. Southampton are pony and it being away is a good thing. And just have Dibling get on the plane back to Newcastle and save us a flight. 👌🏼 Edited Saturday at 17:26 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Saturday at 17:44 Share Posted Saturday at 17:44 Wouldn't say he got it wrong but was tactically out done first half and second half didn't do enough to mitigate it. Hopefully he learns from it and has a secondary option... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted Saturday at 17:45 Share Posted Saturday at 17:45 I think his mistake was underestimating his old team’s ability in attack. On retrospect (and definitely from half time onwards) we could’ve played a double pivot DM with Bruno and Sandro to nullify their threat in the attacking half spaces, with Joelinton as CAM who can hold up the ball for an advancing Bruno to lay off for Gordon and Isak or have Gordon/Isak come up short to support him and try to put a through ball behind. Attacking down the wings against them really left us exposed because they kept trying to catch our wing backs out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted Saturday at 17:46 Share Posted Saturday at 17:46 Howe is statistically awful against Bournemouth. Like some kinda of subliminal conscious makes him shit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted Saturday at 17:52 Share Posted Saturday at 17:52 5 minutes ago, Heron said: Wouldn't say he got it wrong but was tactically out done first half and second half didn't do enough to mitigate it. Hopefully he learns from it and has a secondary option... What I am struggling with is we knew they would do exactly what they did and couldn’t escape it. Especially the first half. Eddie will sort it as he’s proven since joining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Saturday at 17:57 Share Posted Saturday at 17:57 1 minute ago, The Bonk said: What I am struggling with is we knew they would do exactly what they did and couldn’t escape it. Especially the first half. Eddie will sort it as he’s proven since joining. Eddie Howe will stick to his plan and fine tune it to perfect it over time, I think. He has recently said as much as has proven as much and long term, it appears to work. However, today it seemed clear to me first half that what we had set out wasn't working and moving to a 3-5-2 (in possession)/ 5-3-2 (out of possession) was the way to go. He seemingly won't ever do that, it's too much too quick and too rash. I'd like to think we devise a plan B, but seemingly at present we just have a very strong plan A and the intention is making it flawless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted Saturday at 17:59 Share Posted Saturday at 17:59 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: Just a bad day at the office for the whole team. It happens. We move on. Exactly this , people losing their heads over one result, Eddie is the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Saturday at 18:00 Share Posted Saturday at 18:00 Just now, Geogaddi said: Exactly this , people losing their heads over one result, Eddie is the man. We’re 4th! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted Saturday at 18:02 Share Posted Saturday at 18:02 1 minute ago, Heron said: Eddie Howe will stick to his plan and fine tune it to perfect it over time, I think. He has recently said as much as has proven as much and long term, it appears to work. However, today it seemed clear to me first half that what we had set out wasn't working and moving to a 3-5-2 (in possession)/ 5-3-2 (out of possession) was the way to go. He seemingly won't ever do that, it's too much too quick and too rash. I'd like to think we devise a plan B, but seemingly at present we just have a very strong plan A and the intention is making it flawless. Yup, which is what most managers seem to do and makes sense, trust what brings you success, while tweaking and fine tuning where possible. We could have been pumped worse completely deviating from our plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted Saturday at 18:02 Share Posted Saturday at 18:02 From the very beginning, right up until now, every time I've looked into Eddie's eyes, properly looked, I just knew he loved Bournemouth more. Sure, it may be a deeper issue that I can't resolve between us personally, but come on, our ridiculous and frankly shit lack of originality in the Eddie Howe chant/song has to take some part of the blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Saturday at 18:07 Share Posted Saturday at 18:07 17 minutes ago, mattypnufc said: Howe is statistically awful against Bournemouth. Like some kinda of subliminal conscious makes him shit it. Makes you think doesn’t it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Saturday at 18:10 Share Posted Saturday at 18:10 (edited) Quote Howe continued, picking out our conceding of possession in bad areas: “We played in areas that we usually don’t. We lost the ball quite a lot in the middle of the pitch. It is disappointing. We’ve been on a great run so we just need to dust ourselves down and go again.” Edited Saturday at 18:10 by joeyt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Saturday at 18:10 Share Posted Saturday at 18:10 (edited) Should go on sabbatical every time we play them. Get Tindall and Tripps in the dugout. Edited Saturday at 18:10 by nemtizz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Saturday at 18:11 Share Posted Saturday at 18:11 1 hour ago, midds said: Awful result and a truly stinking performance in isolation but heaps of perspective needed here like. We've been utterly unbelievable for the past 5 weeks, blowing teams off the park game after game after game. Today was such a gigantic anomaly of a result and performance that I'm already over it and laughing at just how bad it was. I know it sounds daft but it was so different in tempo, attitude and performance that I've already written it off as 'one of those days' and moved on to thinking about the Southampton game. Games like today happen. So fuck. Move on Agree. Dust it off, strong words said in changing room after game. Back on training ground Monday for a response next weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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