Eddie Howe

[huss9]

6 hours ago, Stifler said:

The more time goes on, the more I think people like Simon Jordon are right. He’s a good manager, but he’ll not take us to the next level.

he needs help in terms of adding to the squad.

we've stayed stagnant because of psr whilst others have been able to invest.

stand still and you fall behind.

[TheBrownBottle]

54 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Still don’t think you can overstate how not being backed for 3 windows in a row has made his job that much harder. We still have 7 players (that I can think of) from Rafa/Bruce time who are vital to the squad. 

He’s been backed, which is why we haven’t been able to spend as much as we’d like.  The rules narrow what can be done, but again there’s nothing stopping us from trading to buy. 

[TheBrownBottle]

46 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

There's not one person in the game who you could say would definitely do a better job with this squad. 

 

 

There are two managers currently doing better with worse squads. 

[TheBrownBottle]

47 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

There's not one person in the game who you could say would definitely do a better job with this squad. 

 

 

There are two managers currently doing better with worse squads. 

[Kid Icarus]

That's form.

[Kid Icarus]

[Cf]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He’s been backed, which is why we haven’t been able to spend as much as we’d like.  The rules narrow what can be done, but again there’s nothing stopping us from trading to buy. 

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. You're saying we can't spend as much as we like because we have spent money previously and the rules limit how much we are allowed to spend. This is pretty self evident. If you're making the argument we should have been shifting Gordon or another purple to rebuild then that's fine but it's not the point people are making. 

 

I've not seen today's performance yet. It was by all accounts a poor one where we for whatever reason got our setup wrong and the players were out of sorts. It happens. Learn and move on. 

 

But on the transfer front it's also pretty obvious that we were beaten by a team who are allowed to spend money. And one of the players they spent good money on scored a hat trick for them. That doesn't completely absolve our performance of course but it's a pretty obvious advantage to City being able to try and buy their way out of their poor form. 

[Danh1]

When our plan A works we are very fucking good. When it doesn’t, we don’t really have an answer. Does need highlighted that we haven’t bought anyone first team ready in so long now that we don’t exactly have many options.

 

Howe will get the summer and next season. Really hope he gets backed, as another season with the same faces will see us going backwards, we have looked like that was going to happen a couple of times this season but picked up when it mattered. That run after Brentford was majestic. 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Cf said:

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. You're saying we can't spend as much as we like because we have spent money previously and the rules limit how much we are allowed to spend. This is pretty self evident. If you're making the argument we should have been shifting Gordon or another purple to rebuild then that's fine but it's not the point people are making. 

 

I've not seen today's performance yet. It was by all accounts a poor one where we for whatever reason got our setup wrong and the players were out of sorts. It happens. Learn and move on. 

 

But on the transfer front it's also pretty obvious that we were beaten by a team who are allowed to spend money. And one of the players they spent good money on scored a hat trick for them. That doesn't completely absolve our performance of course but it's a pretty obvious advantage to City being able to try and buy their way out of their poor form. 

I know what people mean when they say Howe is hamstrung by PSR - he is.  I was replying to the idea that Howe hadn’t been backed, implying that the ownership was at fault on that front.  He has been backed to the maximum extent possible - which means he would need to either wheel and deal or stick with what he has.  He chose to stick.  And it is possible to spend the money we spent last summer and get good players in - Bournemouth paid less for Kluivert than we paid for Osula, for example.

 

I think Howe’s doing (and has done) a good job, and I’m happy with him being our manager.  But I don’t agree with the ‘no-one else could do this / he’s a miracle worker’ crack. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Many were saying Bruno was one of, if not the best, midfielder to play for Newcastle in the Premier League. If city were full strength would he even start? Would Schar, Burn, Trippier, Murphy, Dubravaka, Joelinton, get meaningful game time at Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea? 
 

The playing squad is a far bigger check on our position than Eddies managerial ability. 

[huss9]

12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He’s been backed, which is why we haven’t been able to spend as much as we’d like.  The rules narrow what can be done, but again there’s nothing stopping us from trading to buy. 

he was backed initially, then we ran out of PSR legroom

we may have been better for not losing anderson and minteh.

and some of the initial signings were to get us out of relegation trouble, but we're still having to rely on them and players pre-takeover instead of stepping up to signing champions league level players.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

2 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

When our plan A works we are very fucking good. When it doesn’t, we don’t really have an answer. Does need highlighted that we haven’t bought anyone first team ready in so long now that we don’t exactly have many options.

 

Howe will get the summer and next season. Really hope he gets backed, as another season with the same faces will see us going backwards, we have looked like that was going to happen a couple of times this season but picked up when it mattered. That run after Brentford was majestic. 

All I would add to this is against Arsenal in the second leg we had a completely different plan A to how we set up in the league. 

[huss9]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I know what people mean when they say Howe is hamstrung by PSR - he is.  I was replying to the idea that Howe hadn’t been backed, implying that the ownership was at fault on that front.  He has been backed to the maximum extent possible - which means he would need to either wheel and deal or stick with what he has.  He chose to stick.  And it is possible to spend the money we spent last summer and get good players in - Bournemouth paid less for Kluivert than we paid for Osula, for example.

 

I think Howe’s doing (and has done) a good job, and I’m happy with him being our manager.  But I don’t agree with the ‘no-one else could do this / he’s a miracle worker’ crack. 

never mentioned the owners.

its psr.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, huss9 said:

never mentioned the owners.

its psr.

Here’s the quote I replied to:

 

’Still don’t think you can overstate how not being backed for 3 windows in a row has made his job that much harder’

 

Nothing re PSR there. 

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

All I would add to this is against Arsenal in the second leg we had a completely different plan A to how we set up in the league. 

I was meaning more in game, but you’re right, same with Man U away. 
 

 

[McDog]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Here’s the quote I replied to:

 

’Still don’t think you can overstate how not being backed for 3 windows in a row has made his job that much harder’

 

Nothing re PSR there. 

 

 

He just didn't spell out the reason.

[Rafalove]

22 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

There are two managers currently doing better with worse squads. 

Howe has sustained it over a longer period of time. Also got us to two cup finals in three years, didn’t last season but we had some of the toughest cup draws a team is likely to come up against.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 22:52 by Rafalove

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

4 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

I was meaning more in game, but you’re right, same with Man U away. 
 

 

Also, don’t we all agree that we’ve got very limited options on the bench to change games? Really he has minor tweaks available in the main to change games. It’s symptomatic of having a thin squad. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Rafalove said:

Howe has sustained it over a longer period of time. Also hot is to two cup finals in three years, didn’t last season but we had some of the toughest cup draws a team is likely to come up against.

I agree, and I’m very much in the ‘Howe is doing a good job’ camp.  I’m just not in the ‘he’s performing miracles’ camp. 

[McDog]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

I agree, and I’m very much in the ‘Howe is doing a good job’ camp.  I’m just not in the ‘he’s performing miracles’ camp. 

 

 

TBF, he did turn water into wine in 21/22. I agree, not as much now.

[huss9]

he was considered a genius after the semi final.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, huss9 said:

he was considered a genius after the semi final.

That was a tactical masterclass by Howe.  He really does have Arteta’s number.  Not so much that first half vs Man City, but it is still Man City away.  Personally, I think Man City away can still be chalked off to experience.  

[McDog]

There is more to come, time to back Eddie and his staff.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

 

TBF, he did turn water into wine in 21/22. I agree, not as much now.

That second half of the season was incredible - we hit CL form when we looked stranded at Xmas.  He galvanised what he had and added steel at the back. 

[Cf]

10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Here’s the quote I replied to:

 

’Still don’t think you can overstate how not being backed for 3 windows in a row has made his job that much harder’

 

Nothing re PSR there. 

 

Fair enough if that's how you were reading it. 

 

I think it's pretty much a given though that our lack of transfer activity at this point is PSR related even if the term people are using is "backed".