Eddie Howe

[Begbie]

44 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

You would, but in the long term it doesn't really work like that.

Please explain how expected goals are better than goals in the long term? 🤔

[Begbie]

1 hour ago, Smal said:

well for sure, but performances do actually matter long term.

Goals will always win over performances, also in the long run... tbh our permances has not been good this season, its been flat. So still I would take the goals over xG. 

[nufcjb]

Would not not advancing in the Champions League, or FA Cup together with continued bad results in the league, cost Eddie his job? I fear PIF maybe looking for an excuse to move him on. I'm not even considering the Carabao semis. Think that's a tie too far for us.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2025 by nufcjb

[The Butcher]

Interesting take. Our possession play, or lack of, has been mentioned on here plenty. Eddie will have to improve on that if he wants to be World Class.

[SUPERTOON]

29 minutes ago, nufcjb said:

Would not not advancing in the Champions League, or FA Cup together with continued bad results in the league, cost Eddie his job? I fear PIF maybe looking for an excuse to move him on. I'm not even considering the Carabao semis. Think that's a tie too far for us.

 

 

 

What would suggest PIF are looking for an excuse to move him on? 

[r0cafella]

59 minutes ago, Smal said:

yeah, one thing that is entirely Howe’s responsibility, and something that I think it’s very fair to criticise him for this season, is that he needs to develop better attacking play that suits us playing with Woltemade more. It’s clear he has fantastic ability imo, but we aren’t seeing it in general play at all atm. He’s mostly just getting bullied by physical defenders whilst he’s fairly isolated.

Absolutely, a simple pattern such as a wall pass into him with him returning it to Bruno, who then plays it over the top for Gordon to run on to. He's creating space by dropping it's just we are comical bad at getting the ball to him and obviously his movement and physicality need to improve as well. The fact defenders get so tight to him is a massive opportunity. 

[SUPERTOON]

6 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Interesting take. Our possession play, or lack of, has been mentioned on here plenty. Eddie will have to improve on that if he wants to be World Class.

Mentioning him alongside Dyche, Moyes and Frank is disrespectful for what Howe has done here. Dyche and Frank in particular could only dream of doing what Howe has done. 

[Lush Vlad]

9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Mentioning him alongside Dyche, Moyes and Frank is disrespectful for what Howe has done here. Dyche and Frank in particular could only dream of doing what Howe has done. 

There is also a load of pretentious waffle and made up terms in amongst some good points that have been flagged on here for a long while. 

 

 

[The Prophet]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

There is also a load of pretentious waffle and made up terms in amongst some good points that have been flagged on here for a long while. 

 

 

 

Temporal awareness, reminds me of Joey using the thesaurus in Friends.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Amorim's also another (and probably the biggest) example of a manager who would have been sacked 3 or 4 times over by the people who want Howe out. He'd never have got to the point where anyone could even claim he's turned things around, he'd have been out on his arse after that loss to Grimsby.

Had they won the Europa league he would’ve been sacked by now. They would be sitting with us or lower. 
 

Howe has that Man U squad and no Europe up there with points close to Vila and City.  

[Lush Vlad]

14 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Temporal awareness, reminds me of Joey using the thesaurus in Friends.

Severe lack of zonal pinning and tempura awareness. We’re more of a panko side. 

[The College Dropout]

37 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Interesting take. Our possession play, or lack of, has been mentioned on here plenty. Eddie will have to improve on that if he wants to be World Class.

This guy is a dickhead.  He quoted his own tweet from March 2024 when we were fighting to finish 7th. 

Where was he March 2025?

 

Howe has his issues and limitations as a manager - sure. But this team isn’t poorly coached. It’s just not very good or optimal for his style. 

[TRC]

I think it’s pretty obvious we are or were elite out of possession. The two games a week have killed our intensity so we are less effective at forcing mistakes.

 

When we have the ball we are pretty poor, even last season our performances against the middle of the pack, particularly away were not great.

 

 

[The College Dropout]

I wanted to see us Tonali-lise the squad. Stil have physical monsters but get players technically a level above what we had. Wingers like Mbeumo or Semenyo.  Midfielders like he Ederson or Gallagher. A attacker the profile of Etikite. Let’s see what we look like then.  I think that squad has us in the chase for 4th-5th.  
 

We didn’t do that. We only bought 1 arguable upgrade from 6 signings.  Of course we’ll go backwards. 

[HaydnNUFC]

17 minutes ago, TRC said:

I think it’s pretty obvious we are or were elite out of possession. The two games a week have killed our intensity so we are less effective at forcing mistakes.

 

When we have the ball we are pretty poor, even last season our performances against the middle of the pack, particularly away were not great.

 

 

Last season in a few of those losses at home, especially Brighton and Fulham, looking back it was in the second halves where we’d totally fall off a cliff. West Ham too. We’d then make changes and look totally disjointed. Last 15 minutes at home to Brighton I distinctly remember not knowing where anyone was supposed to be playing anymore. That however was down to being hamstrung in the transfer market and the players on the bench, likes of Wilson, Willock, Osula, Longstaff et al were never going to impact games meaningfully off the bench. Especially when chasing games.

 

This year however, we knew we were going to have 2/3 games a week in March at the earliest. It can be argued we’ve padded out the squad in the last window but not improved it in quality and not with the profile we needed and still need. Positive and incisive use of possession to not only break down teams but to be able to establish an element of control in games so not to exert ourselves physically as often was and is the way to go. Especially if we’re a club that aspires to be making strives forward and is in Europe regularly. Proof will be in the pudding in January to see if Howe sees it that way. But if the summer incomings was his baby then Wilson and Nickson need to take most of the reins next month imo.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2025 by HaydnNUFC

[Gottlob]

That guy's tweet helps to draw out our reliance on a fairly flat midfield, which is probably the first thing I'd change about our side given that more shape would surely help us to add more control centrally. I'd gladly swap out two from Joelinton, Ramsey and Willock for a more dedicated holding player and a creative midfielder, but Howe obviously likes his setup and the support it provides and we have been very successful with it. I think that setup by design doesn't really allow us to control games with the ball and makes the midfield ancillary to the rest of the team, but the other side is that we've tended to get great numbers from our wide players.

 

Now of course in Woltemade we don't have a striker who leads the line or keeps up with the attack in the same way. We're not pressing as high, and the combined result is that the wingers are dropping deeper. We are still a fairly direct side but we don't carry the same threat on the transition.

 

I don't think Howe will fundamentally change our approach and a formation switch seems to invite problems with the makeup of our squad. If we play Woltemade and Wissa together for instance, we surely require more depth up front while it would marginalise either the wide players or some of our midfielders. I don't see Ramsey as a number ten nor do I like the idea of him, Joelinton or Willock playing as part of a midfield two.

 

The last two summer transfer windows have been a mess and there's a growing sense of stasis or even muddiness around our off-the-field operations and long-term plans. I wonder if the players buy into the idea that we're a side who really struggles with two games a week. Overall it feels like we're in a bit of a rut but that can change quickly, and my guess is that we'll keep plugging away and tweaking the relationships between players rather than turning to anything more drastic.

[nufcjb]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

What would suggest PIF are looking for an excuse to move him on? 

I may have gotten this wrong but Eddie was Staveley's choice when PIF wanted Emwry but got rejectex? Sorry if I get my facts wrong. Just been really down with how things have been with us these past few weeks.

[The Prophet]

[Menace]

Twitter is hilarious. The amount of tacticos that are "involved in football" from third world countries is hilarious. Throw shit at the wall, eventually it'll stick

 

[KingArthur]

2 hours ago, Begbie said:

Please explain how expected goals are better than goals in the long term? 🤔

No, in the long term you dont score if you dont create xG. It has it’s flaws, but eventually you will run out of luck. 
 

Goals come from chances created, xG tells you how much you have created. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Menace said:

Twitter is hilarious. The amount of tacticos that are "involved in football" from third world countries is hilarious. Throw shit at the wall, eventually it'll stick

 

Has nowt to do with anything tbf

[KingArthur]

2 minutes ago, Menace said:

Twitter is hilarious. The amount of tacticos that are "involved in football" from third world countries is hilarious. Throw shit at the wall, eventually it'll stick

 

Most of these are Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea fans.. It is funny to see how they state something like ”this Chelsea teams has is all, they are cooking” or whatever bs, then they get their asses smacked by Sunderland. 
 

Teams outside top6 never get any credit from these clowns. One account said Howe will get us relegated. 

[jackyboy]

The stats from our last game pointed to the fact the AG spent too much time playing deep  or centrally.  

[The College Dropout]

Just now, KingArthur said:

No, in the long term you dont score if you dont create xG. It has it’s flaws, but eventually you will run out of luck. 
 

Goals come from chances created, xG tells you how much you have created. 

It’s not true though. 
 

A team or player can ride a crest of a wave for an entire season or more.  
 

Overachieving Xg isn’t luck either.  Players like Son regularly over achieve Xg because they are elite finishers. And a team can over achieve Xg for a season or longer due to team spirit, belief, confidence, determination etc.  a David Moyes team might have comparable Xgc stats to a Marco Silva team but the Moyes team will get more clean sheets when that’s the case 9 times out of 10.  That’s not luck. 
 

We’ve become a weak side that under performs Xg in both directions.  It’s not bad luck. We’ve rarely had our defensive leaders fit together in Trippier, Burn, Schar and Pope (can include Joelinton too) and we lost a clinical striker in Isak.  The players that have replaced them might not be technically or physically inferior but they are inferior mentally which means we lose in the tight margins. 

[BUJ]

On 26/12/2025 at 22:27, splinter said:

Pre season was a disaster and everything has flowed from there.The Isak situation and the Mitchell situation put everything  up in the air. Given time im sure Eddie and Wilson will get things right.

 

 

 

The shit started last 6/8 games of last season.