Eddie Howe

[Rod]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

If I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me ?

It's getting weird now Bobby. Fak tried these tactics a while ago.

[Rod]

2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Wodewick

That's the one. All my mates (two ) always use that line. Weelease Woderwick!

[bobbydazzla]

2 minutes ago, Rod said:

It's getting weird now Bobby. Fak tried these tactics a while ago.

I don't usually do sloppy seconds, but I judge every case by its individual merits, so...we'll cross that river when we come to it

[Rod]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

I don't usually do sloppy seconds, but I judge every case by its individual merits, so...we'll cross that river when we come to it

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Rod said:

That's the one. All my mates (two ) always use that line. Weelease Woderwick!

He's a wobber, and a wapist.

[OoOGazOoO]

I think some criticism is fair.

 

It doesn't have to be:

 

We LOVE Howe

Or

Howe Out

 

Being somewhere on the scale is fine and should be accepted.

 

This season, unfortunately, we have played very average more times than we have played well, and our away form especially is a huge worry.

 

I absolutely believe it is fine to point the finger at things which seem to have a constant pattern:

 

Gordon on the left instead of Barnes

Subs too late to affect the game

Lack of ideas going forward

Summer transfer business

 

In my opinion, no one can look at those above 4 things and tell me or others that the criticism there isn't justified, it absolutely is.

 

Does that mean that I want Howe out? Crikey no! Does that mean that today was another horrendous, abject away performance, this time against a very poor team who have been horrific for the majority of the season to date - 100% yes, and we need to be so, so, so much better.

 

 

Edited January 18 by OoOGazOoO

[Rod]

Just now, PauloGeordio said:

He's a wobber, and a wapist.

Love it. And a wapskalian.

[Rod]

7 minutes ago, Hudson said:

🤣

He has a wife you know.

[The Butcher]

 

[Sibierski]

 

Regular theme really, no-one in the pockets. Striker needing to either drop deep into CM or have two CBs mark them. Alright if it's Haaland stuff, because they then have two players positioned in those spaces, we seemingly do neither. Don't know why we can't just push one of the CMs up like Joelinton was against Bilbao at home and in general in seasons gone by.

 

Wingers hugging the touchline doesn't help either. When Elanga was on, he was popping up loads next to Wissa in middle, which is an improvement, but it then meant no wide option and still no-one on edge of box wanting it into feet on half turn.

 

Simple to defend against.

[Whitley mag]

Needs to alternate between Joe and Tonali in midfield. We are devoid of any creativity, or someone breaking into the box to support the striker (this should be Ramsey’s role).

 

Needs a creative midfielder and a winger who can dribble past people in the summer.

 

 

 

 

[Sir Joel Inton]

24 minutes ago, OoOGazOoO said:

I think some criticism is fair.

 

It doesn't have to be:

 

We LOVE Howe

Or

Howe Out

 

Being somewhere on the scale is fine and should be accepted.

 

This season, unfortunately, we have played very average more times than we have played well, and our away form especially is a huge worry.

 

I absolutely believe it is fine to point the finger at things which seem to have a constant pattern:

 

Gordon on the left instead of Barnes

Subs too late to affect the game

Lack of ideas going forward

Summer transfer business

 

In my opinion, no one can look at those above 4 things and tell me or others that the criticism there isn't justified, it absolutely is.

 

Does that mean that I want Howe out? Crikey no! Does that mean that today was another horrendous, abject away performance, this time against a very poor team who have been horrific for the majority of the season to date - 100% yes, and we need to be so, so, so much better.

 

 

 

 

Best post on this thread. Totally true.

 

You can also add lack of rotation and then bemoaning tiredness and injuries to that list.

[ryanegg]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

It's basically

 

                         Tonali/Bruno

     Bruno/Tonali                    Joelinton

Winger                                             Winger

                             

                              Striker

 

 

So there's a huge gap in the middle where none of our midfielders get to and Woltemade comes deep to fill that gap.

 

Was the same when Isak was here, just he had the pace to beat his man rather than drop deep. I think it would have made sense to put Wissa up front and Woltemade in the 10 today. 

[Keegans Export]

23 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

 

Regular theme really, no-one in the pockets. Striker needing to either drop deep into CM or have two CBs mark them. Alright if it's Haaland stuff, because they then have two players positioned in those spaces, we seemingly do neither. Don't know why we can't just push one of the CMs up like Joelinton was against Bilbao at home and in general in seasons gone by.

 

Wingers hugging the touchline doesn't help either. When Elanga was on, he was popping up loads next to Wissa in middle, which is an improvement, but it then meant no wide option and still no-one on edge of box wanting it into feet on half turn.

 

Simple to defend against.

Stick Bruno in as a #10 with Miley and Tonali behind. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think 2 deeper midfielders and one advanced would help in both ways. We need a way to draw opposition CMs forward so we can hit the spaces behind them. 
 

TBF though, all of our CMs got on the end of attacking balls in the box today. 

[AmericanLooneyToon]

That illustration of our passing represents my brain as the match played out. 

[Dan Gleebals]

One of the biggest issues for me is our summer business, overall it has not had the impact anyone would have hoped for (surely Howe included). I'm not labeling specific players, but overall, it was a bad summer and if anything, relatively speaking, we stood still at best. Even if he wanted to, he has not been able to develop our style of play as the players he bought are not up to it. 

 

The Isak situation completely fucked our planning, and system for me. We have not adapted since.

 

Add in the CL and cup runs, we are a squad running on a tight rope, with not enough quality on the bench (or form) in the squad to address it.

 

Yes there are many frustrations you can add in (reliance on out of form players, poor subs etc) but with limited time between games, he does not seem to have the capacity or time (and perhaps the desire) to work on new ideas.

 

I don't see us addressing this in January due to PSR.

 

On the plus side we could still finish in a decent position, CL still in play and in till in both cups.

 

He has the season for me but he would need a very big think about what we look like next season, and have get the right players to make that happen. Should that fail, then perhaps its time to look at a new manager, and more experienced one when it comes to Europe etc.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I’d like to see some comparisons to other teams for that graph. Surely that area right in front of the goal is always where the fewest straight passes go. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

Really wish he'd mix it up in the last 30 of these games, like. Appreciate it's hard with the stupid amount of football we have so we have to preserve players more but it's annoying to watch.

 

He clearly didn't think it was worth risking losing control today with a more aggressive shape. Unfortunately, that feels very Arteta to me.

[Kid Icarus]

Every passing chart looks like that with much fewer passes in that 10 position. You can't expect to see even anywhere near as many passes there as you would elsewhere on the pitch.

 

 

Edited January 18 by Kid Icarus

[Sandrotastico]

27 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Needs to alternate between Joe and Tonali in midfield. We are devoid of any creativity, or someone breaking into the box to support the striker (this should be Ramsey’s role).

 

Needs a creative midfielder and a winger who can dribble past people in the summer.

 

 

 

 

Like last summer

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Really wish he'd mix it up in the last 30 of these games, like. Appreciate it's hard with the stupid amount of football we have so we have to preserve players more but it's annoying to watch.

 

He clearly didn't think it was worth risking losing control today with a more aggressive shape. Unfortunately, that feels very Arteta to me.

I mean, Arteta is about to win the league so maybe that’s not such a bad thing. 

[Whitley mag]

13 minutes ago, Dan Gleebals said:

One of the biggest issues for me is our summer business, overall it has not had the impact anyone would have hoped for (surely Howe included). I'm not labeling specific players, but overall, it was a bad summer and if anything, relatively speaking, we stood still at best. Even if he wanted to, he has not been able to develop our style of play as the players he bought are not up to it. 

 

The Isak situation completely fucked our planning, and system for me. We have not adapted since.

 

Add in the CL and cup runs, we are a squad running on a tight rope, with not enough quality on the bench (or form) in the squad to address it.

 

Yes there are many frustrations you can add in (reliance on out of form players, poor subs etc) but with limited time between games, he does not seem to have the capacity or time (and perhaps the desire) to work on new ideas.

 

I don't see us addressing this in January due to PSR.

 

On the plus side we could still finish in a decent position, CL still in play and in till in both cups.

 

He has the season for me but he would need a very big think about what we look like next season, and have get the right players to make that happen. Should that fail, then perhaps its time to look at a new manager, and more experienced one when it comes to Europe etc.

We’ll only be 8 points behind Villa if we beat them next week, could have been even closer if we’d done the business today.

 

We could do with CL football again next season to fund the rebuild needed. I think we need a keeper, CB, fullback, creative midfielder, winger and striker. Massive summer ahead and will tell us a lot about the direction of travel.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18 by Whitley mag

[AJ9]

3 hours ago, Big Geordie said:

 

Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Villa seem to manage 3 games a week - so why can't we? Same thing happened last time we were in the CL too. 

3 of those are completely irrelevant comparisons as they’ve had financial advantage over us, and have a squad full of technically gifted players to manage the demands. Arguably Villa do too, and are playing in a much less competitive European competition, and haven’t progressed in the league cup. They also don’t lose their star striker in the summer and have a pretty settled executive team, we’ve also been here before, and had less productive seasons. It happens. 
 

I do wonder which competition we should have chucked this year to focus on the league?

 

 

Edited January 18 by AJ9

[The Prophet]

3 hours ago, Big Geordie said:

 

Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Villa seem to manage 3 games a week - so why can't we? Same thing happened last time we were in the CL too. 

 

Villa struggled last season, until dipping into the transfer market. Suprised Emery didn't get much grief, didn't have the credit of a trophy in the bank either.