AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Maybe not the time but I think Delap is very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Maybe not the time but I think Delap is very good Delap is barely good enough for the Championship lol. He’s scored like 2 goals all season with top talent feeding him. Ask any Chelsea fan and they will say he is one of the worst signings they have made. Yet Howe and Howe nephew will no doubt spunk £60m on him once Gordon has gone. Edited March 22 by Jesse Pinkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Wallsendmag said: He's been here 4.5 years though. Most managers don't get that luxury. Surely after that amount of time the state of the squad is on him. It's his squad that he's invested £550m on since January 2022. He 100% should be held accountable there. Maybe he's targeted the wrong type of player profile? Maybe he's placed too much emphasis on wanting PL proven players? Maybe he's went for too many athletes instead of targeting a couple of technical players? There are some mitigating factors of course there are. It's been a punishing season, we've played more games than any other teams in any of the other major leagues. The impact the Isak saga has shouldn't be underestimated either, although I'm not sure how much of the blame he should shoulder over us not being able to defend anymore. It’s not like he was just gifted 4.5 years like. He came in, saved us from relegation and qualified for the CL twice. All without a functioning club above and around him. It’s hardly a luxury to be allowed to save a football club and carry it on your back for 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It is just one bad season though? It’s only “one bad season” if you ignore the patterns behind it. Same issues, same type of dropped points, same inconsistencies. That’s not random, that’s a trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Jesse Pinkman said: Of course no one has a perfect record but it’s clear Howe prefers certain type of players. He doesn’t have a clue what to do with technical players such as Woltemade. Would you really trust Howe with another £150m and sale proceeds from Gordon and Bruno to build a squad that will consistently get CL? He’ll go out and buy Delap and Bowen etc. Woltemade, he didn't have preseason here and he's way off the pace at the moment. I say that as someone who rates and wanted him in the summer. Howe prefers Isak, Ekiteke, Pedro, Sesko to name a few playing as the main striker. How are they not technical players? There are plenty of narratives you can throw at Howe but that's a far fetched one to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Howe in for me, but if we're say half way through next season and we still have nothing to our game beyond pressing and intensity, then my view would change. Klopp managed to evolve Liverpool's pressing style with phases of controlled possession, without losing the purposeful transitions and counter-pressing. That's what we need, we're never going to be a fully possession based team, but we have to have some more sophistication to our game otherwise it'll obviously be time for all parties to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Milburn said: It’s only “one bad season” if you ignore the patterns behind it. Same issues, same type of dropped points, same inconsistencies. That’s not random, that’s a trend. A trend since when though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: He's been here 4.5 years though. Most managers don't get that luxury. Surely after that amount of time the state of the squad is on him. It's his squad that he's invested £550m on since January 2022. He 100% should be held accountable there. The state of our success is on him, he's been here 4.5 years because he's been successful. We escaped seemingly certain relegation at a canter, followed it up 4th, 7th, 5th positions, two champions league qualifications, a trophy, a final, a semi final, a couple of quarter finals. I know it's repeated constantly but it has to be, his success escapes people's minds so quickly. Edited March 22 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Of course no one has a perfect record but it’s clear Howe prefers certain type of players. He doesn’t have a clue what to do with technical players such as Woltemade. Would you really trust Howe with another £150m and sale proceeds from Gordon and Bruno to build a squad that will consistently get CL? He’ll go out and buy Delap and Bowen etc. He built a CL team out of relegation fodder by his many early signings such as Trippier, Bruno and Burn. Which almost included Ekiteke need we forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallihg Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Sienna Tindall posting a full blown essay and defense following the boos on Instagram then deleting it. Anyone got a screenshot? Rattled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: In what way have they backed him to the hilt? Getting rid of Staveley and Goudoussi. Taking over a year to replace our CEO who was on sick leave for a lot of it, 6 months to replace our DoF while he was hung out to dry in the summer. They're glacial, it's how they are. financially. but otherwise, as you say, its been a shitshow behind the scenes. absolute amateur hour. Staveley's absence i think is hugely underrated. but at the end of the day, Eddie did have £250m to spend and he spunked almost half of it on Wissa and Elanga. and he's still spouting off about PSR in the post match interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: A trend since when though? Since winning the cup last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Of course no one has a perfect record but it’s clear Howe prefers certain type of players. He doesn’t have a clue what to do with technical players such as Woltemade. Would you really trust Howe with another £150m and sale proceeds from Gordon and Bruno to build a squad that will consistently get CL? He’ll go out and buy Delap and Bowen etc. I think the expectation that we should consistently get CL is part of the problem mind. Getting it twice already has been an overachievement and some fans now class that as the baseline. There's 7 sides with more resources than us. We've also had one bad window under Howe. We have one of the best transfer hit rates since he joined us now there's the arguement he can't be trusted with money all of a sudden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, hallihg said: Sienna Tindall posting a full blown essay and defense following the boos on Instagram then deleting it. Anyone got a screenshot? Rattled. In the JT thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, johnny36 said: We have been consistently shit since April of 2025..Warning signs were there last home game of last season where we needed a win to get Champions League. Everton could have scored 4 that day If the warning signs weren’t there then, they certainly were at that Celtic friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 It’s not difficult to see why some people are blinded by loyalty to Howe, he’s achieved an incredible amount with us. Go on Leicester’s forum and see the same conundrum playing out regarding their ownership, an ownership that gave them a league title and FA Cup. However, the ownership is now faltering and rapidly taking them backwards. Some see that and are calling for change. Others are saying “careful what you wish for”, “who would be better owners?”, “credit in the bank”, “they were good for us before”. Some of the people on here have openly said they would never replace Howe, even if we were relegated, so it’s a bit of a moot point to discuss with them when they are adamant they’ll never change their viewpoint despite the evidence in front of them. I think he should be replaced in the summer, assuming the season doesn’t turn around overnight and we somehow end up 6th or something. I won’t repeat my reasons why, I’ve said them repeatedly during both the good times and bad. However, I don’t think the ownership will act. I hope lessons have been learned from the summer and our transfer business is conducted very differently otherwise it could be a very tough season next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Delap is barely good enough for the Championship lol. He’s scored like 2 goals all season with top talent feeding him. Ask any Chelsea fan and they will say he is one of the worst signings they have made. Yet Howe and Howe nephew will no doubt spunk £60m on him once Gordon has gone. Chelsea and their fans didn't rate Salah, De Bruyne or Courtois to name a few. It doesn't inspire confidence in their opinions. And Delap was class at a poor Ipswich side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: In the JT thread. One day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What changed in the small number of days since we delivered a great performance against Barcelona before winning at Chelsea? Have they all given up on him because of that second half in the Nou Camp? I'm not sure if you saw the game but we lost 7-2 at Barcelona. It it wasn't a great performance, it was fucking embarrassing. And yes, I've been to every home game this season and its obvious the players are only turning out for certain games. As I said before, to cure that we either replace the manger (easy option) or replace 8-10 players this summer (not easy) especially if the manager is resistant to wholesale changes. Howe has been brilliant and taken us up two or three levels, but (and its a massive fucking BUT) if we want to reach the next level we probably need a change. Its not dirty to say that and if Kloop, for example, wanted the job I'd give it to him. Nothing lasts forever and about 90% of the fans I've spoken to since FT in the pubs and toilets(!) who went to the match are furious and wanting a change. I had an awful feeling the home crowd might turn today after a defeat, and in my experience the majority did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Milburn said: If we finish bottom half after this level of investment - £5-600m across his tenure - that’s a serious underperformance, not just “one bad season”. And it’s not abstract either. We’re talking about two points combined from West Ham (a), Brentford (a), Spurs (h), Sunderland (a), Sunderland (h), Wolves (a), Brentford (h) and Everton (h). That’s where seasons are defined - not away at City or Barcelona. I wouldn’t even say it’s one bad season. It’s one admittedly bad league campaign in an otherwise okay season. That’s against the backdrop of three seasons of overachievement. I maintain he deserves the chance to lead us into next season where the aim should be to develop a style more suitable to grinding results in 3 games per week seasons, and ultimately to get back in the CL places. If we’re not looking to achieve that by mid-season by all means pull the plug, but not now. Not for me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I’ve largely stopped posting in the football forum but fuck the haters. This man gave us the best day of our footballing lives. He has only ever carried himself and the club in the most professional manner possible. He’s taken numerous players and got them playing at a level many wouldn’t have believed possible. He’s had us into the CL twice and overperforming in the cups beyond our average by an indecent amount. He has done all of this for large periods where the board and behind the scenes support has been beyond threadbare. He is more desperate for this club to succeed than anyone and puts every single ounce of energy into it everyday. He loves this club and he deserves a hell of a lot more backing than he’s getting from fans. I repeat, fuck the haters. The day this man goes, the day this club goes backwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, huss9 said: financially. but otherwise, as you say, its been a shitshow behind the scenes. absolute amateur hour. Staveley's absence i think is hugely underrated. but at the end of the day, Eddie did have £250m to spend and he spunked almost half of it on Wissa and Elanga. and he's still spouting off about PSR in the post match interview. I mean he's not wrong, other clubs are allowed high cost mistakes. I'm still hoping the signings come good, but it's purely based on Howe's record with players coming good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Keggy_Keagal said: The problem we have is that is the board going to trust him with the money to do the rebuild that we clearly need this summer? Or are they going to think it's better to start with a new manager and a rebuild ? A new manager gets time , even in the face of a weak start next season, whereas Eddie doesn't. and who the fuck are these people and do they know owt about football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasMann Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Maybe not the time but I think Delap is very good Could you elaborate on why? Was it the near open goal he skied against us? The one goal he’s scored? The red cards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 54 minutes ago, Anderson said: I've always been of the mindset that he gets this summer no matter what, but I think a clean break at end of season might be best for both now. Not just the result today, but I don't think this squad and Eddie work anymore. So much depended on Isak. Might even be good for Howe. If we're thinking of someone else, break it off now so he can get a couple of months rest himself. He'll sail into a good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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