Eddie Howe

[Wolfcastle]

I don't want shots and chances, that's asking for a mid-season sacking and a lesser stack of replacements to pick from and without the ability to bring in their players.

Either go all in regardless or accept the doubts that make them reluctant to do that.

Shit or get off the pot as Momma Cornette used to say.

[Dokko]

2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

 Canny funny tbf.

 

Give it enough time and you'll flip-flop right back again Dokko.

 

I love him, and will him to do it but he just keeps coming up short. Sometimes it's written in the stars and the story must end a certain way. For me it's about protecting his legacy, as every game that passes it just slips further away.

 

2 hours ago, dcmk said:

 

Let's be honest.  Doesn't the man deserve some backing on here and some benefit of the doubt.

 

He deserves all the love and admiration he'll get here for the rest of his life, just like he still does at Bournemouth, but, benefit of the doubt has been given quite a bit already. We're now into serious doubts territory, sometimes the hero lives long enough to be the villain. If he comes back from this then it's been one of the biggest we'll see from a manager, just like the decline in the last year is also off the scale. He brings it back to that, then it's another unbelievable chapter, however, you've got to ask how can it swing so wildly, and you must judge consistency, with even the biggest fan of his has to say he lacks. 

 

If he does get a chance (which I honestly can't see happening, I think he's more done with it than anyone above him) to go again he's got a job on. Biggest of his career. Does he look like he has the energy and drive for it? Looks and sounds defeated. Has done for some time, and for me this is why I think it's time for him to go. Biggest issue I have is who we could get which would take us to the next level, and could the board actually secure that person. They lucked out with Howe, and he dragged them through some tough situations, with them not returning the favour; jan window just gone a clear signal there was a disconnect between the manager and the board. It just feels like it's a relationship that's done, and the club is suffering for it. 

[Dr Venkman]

2 hours ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

Wonder how good Murphy and Elanga must be in training and how they cannot ever translate that into a performance on the pitch.

 

You’re having an absolutely nightmare tonight, just log off and try to relax rather than making a fool of yourself on the internet.

Reckon he’s in new username territory yet?

[Sir Joel Inton]

Just now, Dr Venkman said:

Reckon he’s in new username territory yet?

 

If you fancy me mate just drop me a DM, rather than stalking my posts.

 

[gbandit]

His legacy is going nowhere like, no matter what happens. I hope his legacy includes more trophies for us though and I think it will 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said:

What I’d hate to see happen is for things to turn toxic against Howe. He doesn’t deserve that. Has this season been shit? Absolutely. Have we ran out of ideas? Looks that way. But he’s given us so much since he arrived. So many great memories. He still deserves our respect even if we’re annoyed and disappointed with how things have gone this season.

 

It won't turn toxic against Howe. Not a chance. It never really has towards any manager other than Pardew v Cardiff when he couldn't even leave his dugout. Considering how shit they were the likes of Bruce, Souness and McClaren had an easy ride, Bruce helped by COVID. Before that in the PL era the likes of Gullit, Dalglish got pretty much no stick, and going back further Ardiles was met more with sympathy than owt else (a few boos at his last couple of home games v Charlton and Bournemouth), Jim Smith was just pure apathy by the end as 15k watched on in silence, and don't remember Willie McFaul getting any abuse aimed at him but I was very young back then so couldn't say for definite.

 

I don't think Howe needs the fans to tell him his time is coming to an end now. You can just tell by his press conferences amd demeanour that he knows it's coming soon. The crowd will stay quiet and let things happen naturally. I'm pretty sure of that.

[Whitley mag]

What manager gets 250 million to spend at his own free will in the modern game?

 

It just doesn’t happen and the trust placed in Howe during the summer was badly misplaced. PIF ultimately have to be held accountable for allowing it to happen, however a lot of people thought Howe had earned the right by winning our first trophy to have full control.

 

It’s been his undoing and to have that amount of money sat on the bench today was damning. The team is stale and the sale of an Isak when it happened, was meant to trigger a full opportunity to rebuild.

 

Howe will have his place in the clubs history enshrined, but he’s absolutely set the club back and potentially damaged us to the point it’ll be difficult to recover for the next couple of seasons financially.

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by Whitley mag

[Pilko]

The pace at which substitutes appear on the touchline after we concede a goal is hilarious. It's like he preps them and says "soon as they score you can get straight on".

 

Genuinely think we'll look back at that Wissa and Elanga sub as his Capello & Heskey 4-1 down to Germany moment. Ridiculous.

[The Prophet]

Just now, Whitley mag said:

What manager gets 250 million to spend at his own free will in the modern game?

 

It just doesn’t happen and the trust placed in Howe during the summer was badly misplaced. PIF ultimately have to be held accountable for allowing it to happen, however a lot of people thought Howe had earned the right by winning our first trophy to have full control.

 

It’s been his undoing and to have the amount

of money sat on the bench today was damning. The team is stale and the sale of an Isak when it happened, was meant to trigger a full opportunity to rebuild.

 

Howe will have his place in the clubs history enshrined,

but he’s absolutely set the club back and potentially damaged us to the point it’ll be difficult to recover for the next couple of seasons financially.

 

 

Does Howe actually want full control though? His soundbites suggest otherwise.

[Newcastle Fan]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Does Howe actually want full control though? His soundbites suggest otherwise.

 

Did the same thing at Bournemouth, remember one of their fans warning us that this might happen when we first got him.

[morpeth mag]

I think it's time for Wilson to step up. He should declare the style of play that is going to have us compete at the very top by 2030. Then EH should have the next six games to show he is the manager to trust with the rebuild.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

 

 

Edited April 12 by Jesse Pinkman

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said:

 

Did the same thing at Bournemouth, remember one of their fans warning us that this might happen when we first got him.

 

That's where the rumour has come from and I believe he is a control freak of sorts. That said, Richard Hughes speaks well of him, Ashworth too.

 

He constantly bangs the "collaborative approach" drum. Obviously whether that's the case behind the scenes who knows, but no reputable journo has ever suggested he wants total control of transfers.

[Chicken Dancer]

It’s such a shame as he doesn’t deserve it whatsoever but if these season fizzles out (and it will btw) and we wind up finishing about where we are now that lap of honour against West Ham will be a sorry sight. 
 

I hate to say it but he can’t seem to get a tune out of them anymore. He had 3 weeks to prepare for this - on the back of another embarrassing display in a derby - and we were as tepid, boring and just awful as we have for the majority of this season. 
 

He deserves another shot at it if we’re being honest but I believe this version of NUFC peaked at Wembley in March 2025. What a way to peak btw, but we’re getting worse by the game. 
 

Finishing 12th-14th would be an absolute disgrace, let’s not dress it up. 

[dcmk]

16 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

The team is stale and the sale of an Isak when it happened, was meant to trigger a full opportunity to rebuild.

 

Howe will have his place in the clubs history enshrined, but he’s absolutely set the club back and potentially damaged us to the point it’ll be difficult to recover for the next couple of seasons financially.

 

This is totally nonsense.  Selling Isak at the 11th hour of the transfer window hasn't allowed any opportunity to rebuild yet.  We tried to replace Isak with someone who was 5th, 6th, who knows on the list of strikers we wanted and it's failed miserably.

 

He's not the only person involved green lighting very expensive deals. Take a moment to realise how desperate we were in the summer and who's fault that was.

 

Would love to know which DoF or manager is out there with an unblemished record on brilliant signings with no duds.

 

[The Bonk]

33 minutes ago, Pilko said:

The pace at which substitutes appear on the touchline after we concede a goal is hilarious. It's like he preps them and says "soon as they score you can get straight on".

 

Genuinely think we'll look back at that Wissa and Elanga sub as his Capello & Heskey 4-1 down to Germany moment. Ridiculous.

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!" Moment for me. Baffling and mega hopium we’d fluke an equalizer.
 

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

The manager whose cv with us reads: saved us from very likely relegation, first trophy in 55 odd years and our first domestic trophy in 70 years, qualified for the Champions League twice, finished 4th, 7th, 5th, another final, a semi final, a couple of quarter finals, huge wins and memorable performances against almost any team you wish to mention...all with the 8th highest wage bill in the league.

 

Who stepped up in the summer when the club was in the shit with no CEO, no DoF, and moved into a role that isn't his, while also doing his usual job and all while the owners sat on their hands.

 

He's set the club back and potentially caused irreparable damage...

 

Then when the notion of entitlement is brought up it's scoffed at and him stepping up in the summer is spun as him having full control and backing by the owners. What a joke man.

 

 

Edited April 12 by Kid Icarus

[Whitley mag]

30 minutes ago, dcmk said:

 

This is totally nonsense.  Selling Isak at the 11th hour of the transfer window hasn't allowed any opportunity to rebuild yet.  We tried to replace Isak with someone who was 5th, 6th, who knows on the list of strikers we wanted and it's failed miserably.

 

He's not the only person involved green lighting very expensive deals. Take a moment to realise how desperate we were in the summer and who's fault that was.

 

Would love to know which DoF or manager is out there with an unblemished record on brilliant signings with no duds.

 

Take the strikers out of the equation then and say we give them the benefit of doubt. 
 

Did you consider long term targets Ramsey and Elanga the right players, considering where we were lacking? That’s a 100 million on those 2 by the way and both Eddie Howe picks?

[dcmk]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Take the strikers out of the equation then and say we give them the benefit of doubt. 
 

Did you consider long term targets Ramsey and Elanga the right players, considering where we were lacking? That’s a 100 million on those 2 by the way and both Eddie Howe picks?

I'm not sold on Elanga, and for the fee would have expected much better. I don't  see him working out. Would personally cut my losses in the summer.

 

With Ramsay, I really like him and can see him being an important player for us in the future especially if Tonali leaves.

[dcmk]

6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Take the strikers out of the equation then and say we give them the benefit of doubt. 
 

Did you consider long term targets Ramsey and Elanga the right players, considering where we were lacking? That’s a 100 million on those 2 by the way and both Eddie Howe picks?

The summer was chaos.  We desperately needed a keeper and the only one identified was Trafford.

 

Totally rudderless in the backroom without a DoF.  I hope lessons are learnt, but with how slow PIF are to give us a greenlight to do anything, who knows what happens.

[Jesse Pinkman]

36 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The manager whose cv with us reads: saved us from very likely relegation, first trophy in 55 odd years and our first domestic trophy in 70 years, qualified for the Champions League twice, finished 4th, 7th, 5th, another final, a semi final, a couple of quarter finals, huge wins and memorable performances against almost any team you wish to mention...all with the 8th highest wage bill in the league.

 

Who stepped up in the summer when the club was in the shit with no CEO, no DoF, and moved into a role that isn't his, while also doing his usual job and all while the owners sat on their hands.

 

He's set the club back and potentially caused irreparable damage...

 

Then when the notion of entitlement is brought up it's scoffed at and him stepping up in the summer is spun as him having full control and backing by the owners. What a joke man.

 

 

 

Rafa also did a lot for the club and has won titles separately, doesn’t mean he hasn’t been found out at the top level and should be given the manager role. Managers naturally have shelf lives and past achievements slowly fade away and become less relevant. The question is has Howe reached his shelf life with the club. 
 

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by Jesse Pinkman

[Armchair Pundit]

I think, with the new signings, there has to be an element of their struggling being down to not having much of a pre-season with us and also a complete lack of reasonable, sustained training availability over the season. It seems to me that we haven't really had much chance to get them up to speed with how we play, not when with the far busier than usual schedule and not when we've had to throw them in at the deep end from the start for large portions of the season, due to injuries, not planning for the aging first team players and the lack of quality in depth.

[Whitley mag]

5 minutes ago, dcmk said:

The summer was chaos.  We desperately needed a keeper and the only one identified was Trafford.

 

Totally rudderless in the backroom without a DoF.  I hope lessons are learnt, but with how slow PIF are to give us a greenlight to do anything, who knows what happens.

Definitely should have been a DoF in place during the summer, but there’s reasons why there wasn’t.

 

Did Howe have to do more in terms of getting his hands dirty in the summer, very probably but his quotes from Friday are very clear in terms of who decides who we sign. Nobody forced him to spend the money on Woltemade and Wissa it was his choice.
 

“I think from my perspective, we’ve recruited players here since I’ve been here in the same way. So, although we’ve had different sporting directors, the processes haven’t changed.

“So, when we recruit a player, what’s fundamentally important is that me and the coaching team like that player and can see a way that we can get the very best out of him in our team. Signing a player that doesn’t fit that criteria, I think, is unhealthy.

“And the club have been really good in helping me sort of mould the squad as I want to. So I think I always say judge me by every signing that we’ve made since I’ve been here, not just by one or two that people want to sort of beat me with a stick with.

“Across the board, I think we’ve recruited really well. Of course, there will be question marks on certain players. I understand that comes with the territory. But I’m really proud of our recruitment.

“There’s a lot of work that’s gone into it. But all the players that we’ve signed, whether it’s abroad or domestic based, have been chased and endorsed by myself.”

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Whitley mag said:

Definitely should have been a DoF in place during the summer, but there’s reasons why there wasn’t.

 

Did Howe have to do more in terms of getting his hands dirty in the summer, very probably but his quotes from Friday are very clear in terms of who decides who we sign. Nobody forced him to spend the money on Woltemade and Wissa it was his choice.
 

“I think from my perspective, we’ve recruited players here since I’ve been here in the same way. So, although we’ve had different sporting directors, the processes haven’t changed.

“So, when we recruit a player, what’s fundamentally important is that me and the coaching team like that player and can see a way that we can get the very best out of him in our team. Signing a player that doesn’t fit that criteria, I think, is unhealthy.

“And the club have been really good in helping me sort of mould the squad as I want to. So I think I always say judge me by every signing that we’ve made since I’ve been here, not just by one or two that people want to sort of beat me with a stick with.

“Across the board, I think we’ve recruited really well. Of course, there will be question marks on certain players. I understand that comes with the territory. But I’m really proud of our recruitment.

“There’s a lot of work that’s gone into it. But all the players that we’ve signed, whether it’s abroad or domestic based, have been chased and endorsed by myself.”

Yes agreed.

 

But it hasn't worked and he owns that decision.  But we are all, as fans, fully aware that Woltemade was way down the list. He certainly wasn't first choice.

 

With a DoF in place we could have potentially avoided being in the situation where it's Woltemade or no-one.

[Gawalls]

Fuck me - same performance from us again with the same mistakes made, same reactions both good and bad from the same people (me included) on the same forum. It's like fucking ground hog day.

 

What we can only hope is this time the same lessons aren't learned - none.